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Thank goodness for the sacrifice of Christ who is truly a reflection of the Father's heart - and one who made possible salvation for the entire world via the GospelEph 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
Eph 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Very true...Going "first" to the Jews, is different than going to the Jews "only".
I have the majority of the NT memorized. What does that passage have to do with Samaritans falsely claiming to be Jews?
Literally, without "spiritualizing" the text. It doesn't need interpretation. And, it is not a Messianic prophecy either. If it was, the ancient Jewish Torah commentators would have had plenty to say about it. Especially if it actually meant what Christianity claims it means. However, they were silent [virtually] concerning that verse. That is a huge indicator in and of itself.
Again, what does that have to do with the Samaritans, I'm not understanding what you have been trying to get at at all? In Yochanon 8:44 Yeshua was speaking to Beit Shammai Pharisees who bitterly opposed Beit Hillel Pharisees, and he was not being literal. If you think he was being literal, then Kefa is Satan in the flesh. Matt 16:23Who did Jesus call children of the devil in John 8? Was it not those who were Jews by ethnicity?
What passage, Yochanon chapter 8?What do these Jewish sages think that passage means?
Again, what does that have to do with the Samaritans, I'm not understanding what you have been trying to get at at all? In Yochanon 8:44 Yeshua was speaking to Beit Shammai Pharisees who bitterly opposed Beit Hillel Pharisees, and he was not being literal. If you think he was being literal, then Kefa is Satan in the flesh. Matt 16:23
What passage, Yochanon chapter 8?
I happen to believe that Yeshua told his disciples not to go to the gentiles because of the 18 measures/edicts of Shammai.But that's exactly what He did say.....Even when He sent out the 70, He told them not to go into the gentile area, but to go to the lost sheep of Israel.
I happen to believe that Yeshua told his disciples not to go to the gentiles because of the 18 measures/edicts of Shammai.
Isn't it odd that he would send them to "the lost sheep?" How lost could they be if everyone knew right where they were?
That's quite a stretch, and it is "spiritualizing" Scripture. Your interpretation has it's foundation in replacement theology. The whole "spiritual Jew" heresy is just another attempt to usurp/replace the chosen people of G-d.Samaritans? Rev 3:9 got nothing to do with the Samaritans. It's speaking about the ethnic Jews who claimed to be the spiritual sons of Abraham
I already told you it doesn't need interpreting. Is there an enmity between people and snakes? Do they bite us in the lower leg, and do we crush them with our feet? There you go..."interpreted."Genesis 3:15.
What are the 18 measures of Shammai?I cant imagine how you came up with that.
What are the 18 measures of Shammai?
It's in the New Testament...I cant imagine how you came up with that.
It's in the New Testament...
(Matthew 10:5-6 Complete Jewish Bible)
(5) "These twelve Yeshua sent out with the following instructions: "Don't go into the territory of the Goyim, and don't enter any town in Shomron,
(6) but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Isra'el.
Neither do I, but I do study Jewish history to get a better understanding of the New Testament. If you don't know what the 18 measures of Shammai are then how can you possibly reject my notion that Yeshua told his disciples to avoid the area of the goyim because of it? Shouldn't you actually know what something is before you comment on it?I dont study philosophy outside the written Word anymore, perhaps you could enlighten me?
Neither do I, but I do study Jewish history to get a better understanding of the New Testament. If you don't know what the 18 measures of Shammai are then how can you possibly reject my notion that Yeshua told his disciples to avoid the area of the goyim because of it? Shouldn't you actually know what something is before you comment on it?
And?Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Your verses precede mine. Meaning that verse 28:19 comes after the verses you are using to enforce your argument.
Yes, and?Sure, Christ said that, but he later goes on to say all nations, and even enforces this by the testimony of Paul.
I'm not trying to "mitigate" anything. Try following the conversation.Im not sure how you can mitigate what I am saying, its directly supported by scripture.
What position?Can you reference this in scripture? Again, Ive pointed out that you are using an older verse to enforce your position...
What position?
I know. You thought I was implying that Yeshua never sent his disciples to the gentiles. However, I never said that, nor did I even hint at it. That's okay though, I get a lot of that. People like jumping on me because my theology has too much of a Jewish flavor to it. I'm used to it.Nvrmnd.. I thought you were implying something completely different..
I know. You thought I was implying that Yeshua never sent his disciples to the gentiles. However, I never said that, nor did I even hint at it. That's okay though, I get a lot of that. People like jumping on me because my theology has too much of a Jewish flavor to it. I'm used to it.
That's quite a stretch, and it is "spiritualizing" Scripture. Your interpretation has it's foundation in replacement theology. The whole "spiritual Jew" heresy is just another attempt to usurp/replace the chosen people of G-d.
I already told you it doesn't need interpreting. Is there an enmity between people and snakes? Do they bite us in the lower leg, and do we crush them with our feet? There you go..."interpreted."
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