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Thank you kindly. And yes it is true. Just because many scientists are Christians does not mean that Christianity is the worldview which corresponds to reality. This post is not an appeal to authority for the veracity of the Christian faith. It is simply to show that there are many intellectuals who see that there is evidence to accept Christianity as more than just a superstitious, antiquated fear based form of religion.
This post is to directly refute the claims that there is "no evidence for God" and claims like: "no scientist believes in God", or "science is monolithic". etc. etc. These men and women who specifically adhere to the Christian faith, not to mention the many that are not mentioned that fall under the umbrella of theism, are convinced that there is in fact very credible evidence for a creationist account of the origin of the universe and that it is supernatural in nature.
Then the OP is a refutation of a strawman.
what is truth?!, if some human be hurt, whether this would be a good thing when is bad?!, and in the same way, how it's possible such a bad thing to be a truth when is a lie?!, because if someone promises you that everything will be alright with you, but after it hurt you contrary to the promise, will this be a good thing for you or a truth?!, so, the truth is when all is okay with the people/souls according to the Will/Plan of God which is the most perfectly good, but the death, diseases, afflictions and the evils at all are not good things and for this reason there are no such things in the Plan of God
and what is the genetic code(dna)?!, isn't it just a universal biological code of God with which He made all living beings?!,
that's why many dna segments of different living creatures are similar or even identical, because the genetic code is universal, not because there is a biological evolution,
and as regards the fossils of prehistoric creatures, they surely are a part of the conspiracy of the "darkness"/devil, because there has never been more than 5-6 millennia counted from the beginning of this eternity, and see how the used word in such cases even on the part of scientists is "pre-historic"
I think your hatred and anger has caused you to miss the significance of my post yesterday. It was the long one. In that post I explained in great detail why your or anyone else's demands for empirical evidence will never be fulfilled. God is not something you can put in a test tube and look at, or in a slide under a microscope to scrutinize, or through a telescope to gaze at. He's much bigger than that thankfully!
Then the OP is a refutation of a strawman.
So for a non-Christian to repent, by your words here, it is not their choice. They have to have been worked by the "the Holy Spirit". This means I cannot be held accountable for remaining a non-Christian.I believe you all have simply misunderstood my aim in posting here. It is not my intention to convince anyone whose mind is already made up. In fact, apart from the convicting work of The Holy Spirit, repentance is not even possible, let alone trusting in Christ for one's salvation.
Your signatures are wrong.I would also like to call you to read my two signatures. They are self explanatory.
I wish you well.
I believe you all have simply misunderstood my aim in posting here. It is not my intention to convince anyone whose mind is already made up. In fact, apart from the convicting work of The Holy Spirit, repentance is not even possible, let alone trusting in Christ for one's salvation.
Im not in the business of supplying empirical evidence to people who don't even demand it when making decisions in their own every day lives.
Nor will any other Christian be disposed to do so. Nor will I speak any more of miracles so that you can berate them and degrade them and make fun of them.
I would also like to call you to read my two signatures. They are self explanatory.
we already testified in our previous reply(#23) about the produced on the part of beast's kingdom(666) "reality", and here we can inset that the evil is not right(-eous) i.e. when people/souls suffer or hurt, when the striving is/are concentrated for the salvation to humans, then there is righteousness, because any other direction is not the salvation itself i.e. at least there is a loss of the effectiveness/efficiency as regards the salvation, for example, one thing is when 100% of the humankind are completely saved, while another is when the saved are only 10%, and namely this is the subject in the Bible, while the evolution and the law of the jungle are not such subject, but there the interest(-ing) is different - something which is not the overall salvation itself, so, such reality which is not good and eternal for all humans is not more profitable than the reality of God's Kingdom although secret/unprecedented
Matthew 13:35 "That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.",
1 Corinthians 1:27-28 "But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea(ie to confound the sublime and honorable (things)), and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:"
Thanks for adding to this discussion. I may be able to explain in more detail my aim in providing this list of notable intellectuals. The majority of them fall under what is referred to as orthodox Christianity.
Sure, kept properly compartmentalized it's no danger to rational thinking in other areas. But "it's not too big an impediment to understanding reality if you ignore it during working hours" is not all that a strong endorsement for a belief system.Some may be in various denominations, however that is immaterial to the reason why I have referred to them. I have referenced them simply to prove that there are scientists who do not see their faith as being contradictory to science. That's all.
I believe you all have simply misunderstood my aim in posting here. It is not my intention to convince anyone whose mind is already made up.
Im not in the business of supplying empirical evidence to people who don't even demand it when making decisions in their own every day lives.
Nor will I speak any more of miracles so that you can berate them and degrade them and make fun of them.
Will you please stop with the personal attacks against people who disagree with you? And don't be fooled, poisoning the well as you do here by implying that atheists are closed minded is a personal attack.
Who are these mythical people who drive with their eyes closed and use faith alone? No one? Strange you'd bring them up, then.
Asking for evidence is not mocking.
If atheists are not closed minded, you all sure are misrepresenting them.
It also seems strange to me that those of you who put so much emphasis on evidence and knowledge would be spending so much time engaging people you know are concerned more about living in the Fear of the Lord which is the beginning of Wisdom.
Not at all.
We have asked you to back up your points.
You have refused.
Who is the close-minded one here?
Possibly because such people lack both evidence and knowledge, and wish to foist their ignorance on others.
We only have your assertion that these individuals do not see their faith as being contradictory to science. They may struggle with the contradictions, or compartmentalize their beliefs - it called cognitive dissonance.Thanks for adding to this discussion. I may be able to explain in more detail my aim in providing this list of notable intellectuals. The majority of them fall under what is referred to as orthodox Christianity. This simply means that they believe Jesus of Nazareth who is the Christ is the Messiah whose vicarious death and resurrection secured for them salvation from their sins and in turn guarantees them eternal life with God.
Some may be in various denominations, however that is immaterial to the reason why I have referred to them. I have referenced them simply to prove that there are scientists who do not see their faith as being contradictory to science. That's all.
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If atheists are not closed minded, you all sure are misrepresenting them.
The real issue here as I have stated earlier is the fact that you desire to be autonomous.
Proof of this assertion?living in the Fear of the Lord which is the beginning of Wisdom.
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