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I predict the answer will be that we really aren't doing any such thing that it is just NASA lying to us.

EDIT: hahaha, it didn't even last 2 posts after that one:

NASA lies and Photoshop skills and Stanley Kubrick lunar models and light filming skills.

I'm such a prophet...
 
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See if you can find a quote from George Coyne where he denies goecentrism.

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George Coyne

I didn't read the whole thing, but this is an interesting paragraphe:

QUESTION: What is your field of specialty as a scientist?

FATHER COYNE: There are several areas, but it's fundamentally based upon a technique called polarization studies, using the polarization of light. Well, with that technique, currently what I'm studying is the distribution of matter around young stars - stars that have just been born, or are in the process of being born. Now we find through doing these polarization studies, that matter tends to be distributed in a disc around the new born star. Now it becomes fascinating, because analyzing that disc more carefully we find that in many cases it resembles precisely the kind of process that we think took place with the birth of the planets about the Sun. So what we're seeing are proto-planetary discs. hat is, a young star that has the physical conditions to perhaps develop a planetary system. And that, of course, becomes very fascinating.

Although he doesn't say it explicitly, clearly he is talking from a context where it is implied that heliocentrism is the accepted model.

Off course, why would he say it explicitly? After all, for most of us geocentrism is to astronomy as stork theory is to embryology...........
 
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I think he's suggesting the images of the Earth we see are enhanced by CGI, photoshop etc. I think it would be more surprising if it wasn't.
Read up on Jack Parsons the occultist, and his dealings with Jet Propulsion Labs. NASA were founded by wizards, and continue to be run by such, in the true sense of the word.
 
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Read up on Jack Parsons the occultist, and his dealings with Jet Propulsion Labs. NASA were founded by wizards, and continue to be run by such, in the true sense of the word.

And we all stared into the black mirror (TV) and were hypnotized into this crazy delusion from the pit of hell
 
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This in no way addresses what I wrote...

Your graphic claims that there are no direct flights from "Cape town to Sydney". There are however direct flights from Sydney to Johannesburg. A 6,871 mile flight taking 14 hours. Half the distance shown on your 'graphic'.

Your meme is wrong.
 
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Have you ever been on QF63? I've done it a couple of times, one time going far enough south that we could see the Antarctic ice shelf. That is a nonsensically long route to take on your flat earth but a sensible one to take on a global earth. Knowing that airlines live and die on fuel costs, how do you explain the willingness of Qantas to burn these ridiculous amounts of fuel to the detriment of profits in order to keep the conspiracy going? Let me guess - everyone in the world is a Freemason except for the Flat Earthers, right?
 
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how do you explain the willingness of Qantas to burn these ridiculous amounts of fuel to the detriment of profits in order to keep the conspiracy going? Let me guess - everyone in the world is a Freemason except for the Flat Earthers, right?

That's about the strength of it. Rationality is a luxury conspiracy theorists can ill afford.
 
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Read up on Jack Parsons the occultist, and his dealings with Jet Propulsion Labs. NASA were founded by wizards, and continue to be run by such, in the true sense of the word.

Seems like a clever man who had an interest in the occult. I fail to see why you think NASA is run by wizards though.
 
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Read up on Jack Parsons the occultist, and his dealings with Jet Propulsion Labs. NASA were founded by wizards, and continue to be run by such, in the true sense of the word.

WT4LW??? Wizards? Seriously?

Who do you think runs NASA? This dude?

 
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Why all the NASA photos of Earth of various sizes, if satellites, as NASA portrays, actually exist?
-_- different satellites taking the pictures (no two satellites are exactly the same distance away, or they risk crashing into each other) , satellites move in elliptical orbits so they aren't a consistent distance away from the subject, taking the images using zoom functions... lots of reasons. It'd be more suspicious if all satellite photos looked exactly the same.

Do some research and you'll see the size of the Earth as shown by NASA, varied on average several times per decade since the 50's.
-_- like I said, satellites move in elliptical orbits (an oval) so they aren't a consistent distance away at all times. So even if all of these photos had been taken by the exact same satellite, it shouldn't be shocking that there is some difference. Not only that, but the various steps in processing the photos that can result in resizing them.

You know what? Get out a tripod, and snap some pictures of something spinning from the same distance away. Let's see if the camera focuses and takes pictures consistently, even if stationary. Because in the case of satellite photos, neither the subject (Earth) nor the camera (on the satellite) are stationary. Even worse, they don't move at the same speed, and the distance from the subject and the camera is not consistent. NASA probably takes hundreds of pictures they just toss because the image is unclear.

Moving stars have never been proven the same thing as the objects launched by NASA and the other lying "space" agencies.
Moving stars (as well as exploding ones) have been observed for centuries; long before NASA. The first supernova recorded in documents that survived to this day are from 185 AD.

But I am curious as to what you think of the observable change in perspective we have in regards to the positions of stars on a nightly basis if you think that both they and the Earth are entirely stationary.
 
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Seems like a clever man who had an interest in the occult. I fail to see why you think NASA is run by wizards though.

Wizards are real now, but astronauts aren't.

In Bizzaro World all is possible! Dog mean cat, cat mean dog! Me Bizzaro scientist, so me know.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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You must realise that a hydrogen bomb is not quite the same as the sun, though, right? To wake up with the sun's rays coming through your bedroom window - pleasant. Radiation from a hydrogen bomb - not so much.
-_- the sun gives off tons of harmful radiation. Lots of it scatters, hitting matter that is between us and the sun, gets blocked by our atmosphere... and even after all that, an easily measurable amount gets through (source of sunburns). The reason you'd be affected by a hydrogen bomb more than the sun is due to proximity.
 
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Wizards are real now, but astronauts aren't.

In Bizzaro World all is possible! Dog mean cat, cat mean dog! Me Bizzaro scientist, so me know.

-CryptoLutheran

Here is a MSM introductory to wizardry


Here is something you guys don't consider:
The use of hallucinogenic plants and hallucinogenic conscious states.

But hey, you guys are materialistic right? no spiritual warfare exists right, Jesus didn't cast our demons? I think you don't believe the bible.


Gandalf. With a little help from Sam Gamgee, of course.

You should go up to Boleskine House - Wikipedia

OR just watch the TV for more hypnosis.

You may want to looking to the members of JRR Tolkien's inklings club.

You may find one of them to be a member of the same order Crowley was in.

Hermetic order of the Golden dawn
 
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J.R. TOLKIEN, C.S. LEWIS, THE INKLINGS, NARNIA & THE GOLDEN DAWN-PART 1
By Dr. Scott Johnson | April 6, 2008





J.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, The Inklings, Narnia & the Golden Dawn-Part 1
4/6/2008

In this teaching we will start out by first discussing many of the occult details and facts regarding both J.R. Tolkien’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ books/movies and then C.S. Lewis’s ‘Narnia’ books/movies.

During the 1930’s to 1940’s both Tolkien and Lewis were part of an informal literary discussion group associated with the ‘University of Oxford’ & known as the “Inklings”. C. S. Lewis called Charles Williams (Fellow “Inkling”, specialist in Tarot and Kabbalah & a man whose mind was steeped in occult rituals and demonic forces) ‘his dearest friend.’ This close friendship made a large impact on Lewis and his writings. C. S. Lewis wrote of Williams poems: ‘They seem to me… for their profound wisdom, to be among the two or three most valuable books of verse produced in the century.’ Charles Williams was also a member of the ‘Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn’.

There are many that assert that both Tolkien and Lewis were closet members of the Golden Dawn. The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was a amalgamation of Freemasonry (Babylonian mystery religions), Theosophy (An Satanic/occult religious philosophy combined with metaphysics, started by a high level witch named H. P. Blavatsky), Eliphas Levi’s Teachings (A high level black magic occultist), Enochian Magic (an elaborate system of advanced, Satanic, ceremonial magic), The Kabbalah (The highest level of Jewish witchcraft) and medieval grimoire (a manual of black magic for invoking spirits and demons). Regarding the Order of the Golden Dawn, among its first initiates was a coroner who allegedly performed necromantic rites, while another early member was black magician Aleister Crowley, the self styled Great Beast/666.


J.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, The Inklings, Narnia & the Golden Dawn-Part 1 – Contending for Truth
 
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Here is something you guys don't consider:
The use of hallucinogenic plants and hallucinogenic conscious states.
Well, I have to admit to having had my fair share of hallucinogenic plants and hallucinogenic conscious states - as a young explorer of the inner and outer worlds; but I don't really see how they're relevant - unless you mean that some people mistake them for viable alternate realities or some such nonsense?

Of course, there's money and fame and/or notoriety to be made on the back of the gullible folks who believe that stuff - as Carlos Castaneda discovered.
 
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