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One tiny word renders thousands of pastor's baptisms over 20 years invalidUnfortunately, Arango's version has consistently been "We baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," a one-word variation that isn't up to snuff with the Catholic Church, and which has now led to some bad news for Arango: He's resigned from his post as pastor of St. Gregory Catholic Church. The bad news for everyone else, per the diocese website: "All of the baptisms he has performed until June 17, 2021, are presumed invalid." The site adds to those affected, "You will need to be baptized" and notes that, "as far as we know," the other sacraments carried out by Arango have been OK.
He is still a priest in good standing and he resigned voluntarily.
It goes into further detail in the article. Apparently, those who were baptized need to get re-baptised and then get through all the important sacraments again, like first communion and confirmation.I suppose thousands of the unbaptised also received Sacraments that are invalid due to them not being baptized.
I don't fault him. To err is human, as they say.He is still a priest in good standing and he resigned voluntarily.
So God is obsessive with grammar?
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized
It all depends on what you believe in, hmm?Huh, and it's not the fact that they're doing it to babies who don't know who Jesus is much less believe He died for their sins?
If you're going to be nitpicky, nitpick over the right things
Acts 8
splashing babies and saying some words is just getting the baby wet
Having read through the FAQ, I didn't see a mention of where the church stands on anyone who received these baptisms who died. And if they consider there to be any difference between an infant who was too young to choose it, and an older child or adult who was old enough to choose it.
Having read through the FAQ, I didn't see a mention of where the church stands on anyone who received these baptisms who died. And if they consider there to be any difference between an infant who was too young to choose it, and an older child or adult who was old enough to choose it.
What the Church Has Said About Children Who Die Without Baptism | EWTNIn particular, in the struggle between St. Augustine and Pelagius, the latter denied original sin, while Augustine, Doctor of the Church, asserted its existence. In St. Augustine’s time, the doctrine existed according to which outside the Church there was no salvation, so the belief was that those who were not baptized, whether adults or newborns, could not enjoy the salvific vision.
In this context, St. Augustine speaks about children dying without baptism and thinks that hell is their destiny, saying that they are subject to the flames of hell, although adding that they are “very mitigated flames.”
It all depends on what you believe in, hmm?
As far as I believe, it's always splashing and getting wet.
This is the kind of thing that places the Catholic Church in a bad light. Does God really care what exact words are used? Isn't the intent what is most important? The Church says the "I" refers to God acting through the priest; one could assume the same from the word "we".
I assume that some of the people that this priest baptized have died. So are they denied eternal salvation because of the priest's error? Are the other sacraments, like Confirmation which follows baptism, also invalid since they would be out of the proper order? If an invalidly baptized person married would that marriage now be, in essence, annulled, forcing the couple to get re-married in the Church after the person was properly baptized? What if one of the improperly baptized was ordained as a priest? Would that ordination now be invalid and all his sacraments declared invalid because he would not be a baptized Catholic?
The inanity of this just goes on and on. Lord, let us not get buried in pompous legalisms.
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