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Pressie for Tariel.

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Ist draft & fairly rough opening paragraphs. Got one chapter done & now have massive writer's block. Hence the amount of time I spend playing in here. Do your worst...PS This is not exclusive. Anyone else feel free.
-We are not being nice, the clairsiar of Brie Leith, what is left of us. No~one likes a satirist and we were not there when the Dubhgint swarmed in a bloody throng through our halls for Gillie had pushed Ri too far and he was having the lot of us from the halls, someplace private where Se’s cleverness would not count and it was only us Gillie could hurt.

Ri was so quiet and so angry, for we had shamed him before the entire hall, even Se thought it best to hold her tongue, though that might have been from the headache I’m sure she was having, Gillie having managed to smash one of the thick Gaolin platters against her skull. She had a bruise to boast of amongst all the blood. It was leaving her uncommonly quiet and pallid as death. Every so often her eyes would flicker with wry amusement at something Ri said. He was in fine form, his r’s rolling thunderously and his light insolent drawl snapping the words off neat and clean till I was squirming though it was Se who began it and Gillie who threw everything screaming curses. It must have been Jahl curses for Se was laughing in her quiet way that is so very maddening. I was not thinking her Jahl was so good but she is always surprising. Hen Basilio was having her from the death pit with the earth already raining down to bury her alive with her mam and her mam’s lover, the Cruithi being as they are about their bloodlines, & dragged her over most of the known lands before he died. He has been dead ten year and still Se is more two fingered wandering minstrel than trained clairsiar, though she is clever enough and I am not the only one to be thinking our hall would have been better served if all that cleverness were not satire honed.

It was Se who quipped that Ri packaged well, and that was the best that could be said of him. It is only partly true. It is true that he is a small neatly made man with a humorous mouth and fierce blue eyes, too pretty to be a man, but he is also the youngest Pencedd ever, with all the arrogance of a trained satirist and a scion of the blood. The novice hall voted him scariest Pencedd three years running. He has a way, does Ri, of saying nothing, unnerving guilty novices into blurted confessions; a nasty habit and not one to endear him to the novice hall but he has had years of Se and now Gillie as well.

For a long time I was not understanding, for I should never have been given to the satire. I am not clever like Se or Gillie and I thought it was for pity Se was kind to me when she was so cruel with Ri. I know now Ri has no patience with stupidity and it amused Se to know it was fear of Ri made me so very stupid. No~one with sense could be afraid of Se. She is so tiny, like a little wren, with a fuzz of pale hair like thistledown, and looking like a stiff breeze would knock her flat, no trouble. Only her eyes are strangely dark, having seen things never meant to be seen. It has made of her something strange and rare. She is gentle too for all the sharpness of her tongue and the babes know it well for they are always about her feet when she is about the keep though Ri will not have them in his rooms. He says the three of us are enough. No surprise there for keeping Gillie is a work and a half all on its own and she may kill Se yet for it was Se coolly informed her she couldn’t wander about Duan’s Keep with all those death rings knotted in her hair. She should have left it at that and not been so clever for what she said next rankled and it is doubtful Gillie will ever forgive her for it. Se said she would frighten the little ones half to death clanking about the halls like the walking dead and shaved her head to the bone on the strength of it though I suspect it was Ri at the bottom of that and not wanting nits crawling through his beard. He is a fastidious man & Gillie’s hair was a ropey, matted mass smelling like wet wool. Her skin was greased to a dark shine, inground dirt mostly, for she was pale as whey washed up and madder than a riled ferret. All teeth and claws our Gillie, a chevali of the Jahl trapped within four walls and cursed to stay, with all the honour of her tribe riding on her shoulders. Se says she is unhappy having lost the Patrin Way, the leaf trail, the bright wagons and open skies but she makes us unhappy with it and it is not our fault. Granahir’s seed is cruelest of all and Gillie is no exception. They learn to kill early being sent as they are onto the killing fields to finish of the dying of both sides.
 

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one more question: how ruthless do you want me to be? Just the basic, "I didn't get this, I was confused about that?" Do you want stylistic and grammatical suggestions? Do you want intense content criticism? I can give anything and everything.

I haven't read it yet, but if you don't mind and won't get offended, I would like to do a full review. Anything and everything. :sorry:
 
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ok--First of all, I can't wait to read more.

Now let me make sure that I have the basics down--Se, Gillie and the narrator somehow got this Ri guy mad. (I'm assuming that the narrator is a girl, since Se and Gillie are.) Then we get the background info for Se and Gillie, right? We learn that Gillie doesn't like Se, Se likes tormenting people, and that the narrator doesn't really like anybody--at least nobody she comes in contact with so far.

Ri removed the narrator, Se, and Gillie from the hall, and therefore they missed some form of invasion. I'll get into the details of what I thought later, but for the moment I'll give you a few of the thoughts that jumped out at me.

1. The first paragraph is full of uncommon words and strange terms. It's a good way to loose your reader immedietly.

2. As much as I enjoyed reading the backstories of Se and Gillie, I'm not sure that they are entirely necessary at this point. Just give us a few hints, tantalize us.

3. On that same note, you might want to consider picking up the action a bit. Show us what happened.

4. Then again, if done eloquently, your way could be quite effective.

5. Ri is hot.
 
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Good-o. I think Ri is hot too but as you have less detail of him than anyone that is interesting.

Yes I know I have a problem. I always do with terms. I like to use 'real' words but if I use bard it's been cliched & it's not exactly what I mean anyway because they are more than just musicians. Will go scratch my head some more.

Yes.. you're right, far too much info, but it's a 1st draft & that is easily enough fixed so long as I manage not to lose my 'voice'.

The pace is quite slow & you nearly got something else which goes completely opposite but that one's my 'security blanket' & not too many people get to see it.

You are doing a good job. Thankyou. And I'm surprised & glad you like it.
 
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Good-o. I think Ri is hot too but as you have less detail of him than anyone that is interesting.

Yes I know I have a problem. I always do with terms. I like to use 'real' words but if I use bard it's been cliched & it's not exactly what I mean anyway because they are more than just musicians. Will go scratch my head some more.

Yes.. you're right, far too much info, but it's a 1st draft & that is easily enough fixed so long as I manage not to lose my 'voice'.

The pace is quite slow & you nearly got something else which goes completely opposite but that one's my 'security blanket' & not too many people get to see it.

You are doing a good job. Thankyou. And I'm surprised & glad you like it.
Ri isn't by any chance a redhead, is he? :blush:

Sometimes you need to use the common words. And pardon my ignorance, but what does "clairsair" mean?

Yes...first drafts tend to be wordy because half the time the writer is trying to figure out exactly who the characters are.

Slow is fine...I am assuming that we will eventually figure out what's going on though.

Thank you. I'm glad I could be helpful. I should have more comments soon. Whenever you have more that you feel like sharing, I'm more than willing to read it. :thumbsup:
 
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Ok. I have the first chapter. Will post page by page. Bits are still really clumsy & I've written myself into a corner. You've met my characters so you can imagine just how much help they're all being! I specialise in characters you hate to love; difficult personalities.
Clairsair technically means harp. When I used harp a friend complained I was confusing things. Did I mean the instrument or the person? I figured the term could be used interchangably but she disagreed.

Ri is more gingery blonde than a true red-head I think. However I have a black-headed hawk whom I discovered very late in the day was a dyed white-blonde. Gave me a frightful shock.

I appreciate the feedback.
 
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I once asked Se if she had traveled with the Jahl wagons but her face closed up tight as it always does whenever anyone mentions Basilio, however obliquely, and though I suspect the answer is yes I do not see how for the Jahl hate all outsiders with a fanatical passion.

Ri is not normally a hitting man but he was after making his point with a tawse that afternoon till Se’s eyes slitted, plotting revenge. I curled unhappily on a rock hugging my knees. I do not like it when our hall fights. There is too much of cleverness all round and things get said that would be much better left unsaid till all the humour is gone from Ri’s mouth and Se truly becomes the hunting hawk she is named for. When it is Ri she hunts things are getting very ugly. She is subtle too, and I have seen her tell the longest, most complicated joke when she is punished savouring the punch~line for the final stroke so that even Ri will laugh ~ only she will do it before Duan who knows it for the mockery it is in truth and has Ri from us for long enough to have him moving very gingerly indeed for a week or more.

There is nothing subtle about Gillie but her Gaolin is not so good so at least only Se understood her curses. Every so often Se’s eyes would widen in surprise and she would tuck in her mouth small to hold in her laughter. They must be good curses though Se will never say.

It was only I who wept having no stomach for any of it and more afraid of Ri quiet and savage and all furious Pencedd than of Duan herself though she was Keeper and Ard~pencedd. I am not liking the quiet after either with everyone licking their wounds and no~one liking each other much for as a rule ours is a hall full of laughter.

“Bian.” I glanced up warily but Ri looked weary to death scrubbing a hand over the glint of ginger stubble on his chin. His voice was soft and mild as it usually is so the worst was over for now, at least until Se plummeted in for her kill. I could see her out of the corner of my eye hunkered down beside the rock pools letting the icy salt water wash over her welted hands, her head tilted to the sky, the darkness of her plaid billowing up from her shoulders. “I will not be having sense out of either of them for days,” Ri said softly, “but we need a fire…” His voice trailed off and I wondered uncertainly if Duan had got to him before he had got to us. Likely so and with a hall full of guests she would have been less than kind. I untangled myself suddenly and piercingly aware of the keen nip of the wind, of the salt laden air and the nasty way the clouds were rolling in from the sea. We were at the wrong end of cantlos to be camping out but I knew well enough we would not be seeing the insides of the keep until Ri had us sorted out to his satisfaction, and that could be days. He pulled a wry mouth at me for I give him the least trouble while Se makes it her business to give him the most.

It began then. I saw Se go very still, her head tilted to the darkening sky. Only the tugging wind whipped the loose ends of her plaid about her. Then she was on her feet, leaping across the rocks, and Ri was rolling his eyes for Se is often clumsy, which is what comes of being tiny and nothing fitting as it should. She did not call out and as she darted across the pebbles my heart plummeted like a hooked fish for everything that I knew as Se was gone and in her place was a fierce stranger who pointed to the sky above Brie Leith where the black crows were circling down in a lazy spiral, telling already what we should find. Stone does not fire well and so there was no smoke, just the crows. Already our world had changed past the knowing but we were still tangled in everything that had once been ours & so Ri put his fingers between his lips & whistled for Gillie, a high shrilling sound that jerked her head round & brought her running. The colours of her plaid flashed kingfisher bright but Gillie was scowling & prepared to be difficult. Se tilted her head at Gillie consideringly but whatever it was she was thinking she kept to herself & soon Ri had us moving eastwards, back the way we had come that morning.
 
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Ri is always saying a good clairsair notices things & remembers them for later. I noticed Se. The rest of us were hurrying but Se was spinning in lazy circles, moving almost reluctantly, her head tilted back as it so often was, her fingers crushing a sprig of thyme so that its scent wafted across occasionally & I know she was seeing the brightness of Rowan & blaeberries like droplets of blood & the colours of the sky running together like a bad dye job. There was a lark singing somewhere high above us & a little soughing wind rippling through the marram grass so that the little hills swelled & billowed like waves at sea while the cold air was sharp with salt & coming rain & I know she was filling her mind with these things as a bulwark against all the ugliness to come.

It was very ugly. Ours was not a big hall so all the faces were familiar. There was blood everywhere & the putrid smell of spilled entrails. The only movement was the black ruffling of crow feathers and the small tuggings of the wind at bright bits of cloth.

We stood at the top of the scree that slides down into the widening valley of the Abersalle and stared silently. The little ones were scattered like gold leaf across the swarth for they had run every which way from the curved Dubhgint swords and they had fallen where they were. The Pencedds lay piled before the keep door where they had tried to form a bulwark till the little ones could get safely inside. Every animal we owned was gone; the sheep, the chickens, the goats and the two half-grown piglets that were to have been our winter bacon. Gillie’s knife whispered from its sheath but Ri pushed her hand down. There was no need of a knife. Se twirled her sprig of thyme round and round hissing softly between her teeth.

‘There aren’t enough bodies,’ Se said at last. Her voice was strangely cool and dispassionate and in its way as frightening as the massacre.

‘Mawr oll Aither,’ Ri said sounding completely devastated. Se was watching him with the cool detached look that is almost insolent and drives him mad but she was cleverer than he and had seen more of the world for all he was so much older. She moved past him down the scree, the shale rolling under her boots the only sound, too loud in the stillness. She moved neat and light, almost dancing and in a moment her voice drifted back to us, singing as she wound her way through the bodies. I couldn’t think what she was doing; it wasn’t the caoin for the dead she sang but something far older and sweeter. I glanced at Ri but all the colour had drained from his face and he had masked his face so I could not know what he was thinking. Gillie stood like stone her eyes wide with surprise till I tugged at her plaid.

‘What’s she doing?’ I hissed.

‘Claiming the dead,’ Gillie said never looking at me. I could not think what Se would want with so many dead nor why Ri’s jaw should clench so tight when the rain began. It came down hard and fast slamming into the ground like a shower of spears with a sound like a whole stampede of horses bolting for the hills. Within moments the Abersalle was blotted from sight.

We stood there, the rain ramming into us, the wind pinching as it skittered past us, the cold becoming a gnawing at our bones and when it was done the dead were gone from the valley as if they’d never been but Se did not return to us.

Ri stared into the empty valley with tight lips. ‘Mawr oll Aither ,’ he groaned, ‘Duan is going to kill me for this one!’

‘Duan?’ Gillie sounded highly amused. ‘It’s Elyion I should worry about if I were you.’

Ri eyed her with cold dislike. ‘Why? Se is his first of all.’ It was only then I began to realise Se was one of Elyion’s Dreamers. It was such a shock I almost wet myself. I told you I wasn’t any too bright.
 
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beautiful beautiful beautiful. I'm assuming that with editing it will become more coherrent, and I already got most of my stylistic questions out of my system...at the moment there's nothing to do but to mention that I think that the ending of the third section would be more powerful if I better understood what Elyion’s Dreamers were. I should except that it will be explained in the near future, however. So at the moment I am willing to trust the author. ^_^
 
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Ok. I have the first chapter. Will post page by page. Bits are still really clumsy & I've written myself into a corner. You've met my characters so you can imagine just how much help they're all being! I specialise in characters you hate to love; difficult personalities.
Clairsair technically means harp. When I used harp a friend complained I was confusing things. Did I mean the instrument or the person? I figured the term could be used interchangably but she disagreed.

Ri is more gingery blonde than a true red-head I think. However I have a black-headed hawk whom I discovered very late in the day was a dyed white-blonde. Gave me a frightful shock.

I appreciate the feedback.

Characters you hate to love and love to hate are my favorites :thumbsup: Besides, they're so much fun to write.

I have never heard the word clairsair used in the real world, but I think that--with a little explanation perhaps--it could easily be used as an equivalent of, say, a bard. It's a musical term...why not? Again, I would just let the reader know what you mean by it.

I was just asking about Ri because the fictional guys I fall in love with like that are often redheads...but he's close enough ;) :D But yes, characters can do unexpected things ^_^ It's half the fun.
 
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I enjoy my characters although they are often difficult & unco-operative. Clairsiar is a Gaelic term, as are a lot of other odd words that turn up. They are quite specific, which is why I use them but it does cause problems. Elyion is one of the biblical names for God, which should now tell you something. I believe you like symbolism. Dreamers/dreaming is a recurring theme I'm trying to work out of my system without much luck - the boundary between worlds & how they impact on each other.

I hope you're not in a hurry for any more. I'm a slow writer & prone to really bad blocks but I'm highly reliant on visualisation; I can't write what I can't see.

Meanwhile I'm reeling in absolute shock! None of my friends are fantasy readers & I've NEVER got such a positive response from anyone about my writing.

One last thought; Please, please, however bad it is, don't tell me I've written an Eragon! I couldn't cope.
 
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I enjoy my characters although they are often difficult & unco-operative. Clairsiar is a Gaelic term, as are a lot of other odd words that turn up. They are quite specific, which is why I use them but it does cause problems. Elyion is one of the biblical names for God, which should now tell you something. I believe you like symbolism. Dreamers/dreaming is a recurring theme I'm trying to work out of my system without much luck - the boundary between worlds & how they impact on each other.

I hope you're not in a hurry for any more. I'm a slow writer & prone to really bad blocks but I'm highly reliant on visualisation; I can't write what I can't see.

Meanwhile I'm reeling in absolute shock! None of my friends are fantasy readers & I've NEVER got such a positive response from anyone about my writing.

One last thought; Please, please, however bad it is, don't tell me I've written an Eragon! I couldn't cope.
Don't worry...you're story, rough as it is, is better than Eragon :thumbsup:

I can wait ^_^ Just let me know when you write more :D

And I kinda assumed that the Elyion's Dreamer thing was something to that effect :thumbsup: Thanks.

Oh, and a note: I would stick to more common but less specific words. A word can be perfectly specific, but if it is unfamiliar to the reader, you loose that effect.
 
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