President Trump Signs Executive Order to Defund NPR and PBS

Bradskii · May 13, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
Its more like Trump and the US are looking at buying 0% of Alumnium from Canada and producing this in the US and selling to other countries keeping the full profit

You can't make enough to cover your own needs, let along export it: https://money.usnews.com/investing/...-does-the-u-s-get-its-steel-and-aluminum-from

'The U.S. aluminum smelting industry is small by global standards. Total smelter capacity in the country was just 1.73% of the global total according to the U.S. Geological Survey.'

And:

'The US imported nearly all the bauxite (the only commercial aluminum ore) used in producing primary aluminum. For years, the US has produced less than 1% of the bauxite used to make aluminum.'

And guess where you get 45% of refractory-grade calcined bauxite? China. Bauxite and alumina

Trump has bounced around so much on tariffs that I can't be definite about this, but the section 232 tariffs on Aluminium is 25%. So far from making a profit in exporting it, companies that need it are going to pay 25% more for it.

Still think it's a great idea?

Truth7t7 · May 13, 2025

mark46 said:
Yes, the aluminum and steel tariffs REDUCE the number of American jobs by increase the cost of steel and aluminum needed to porduce manufactured goods.

Steel and Alumnium production are matters on National Security, they will be domestically produced just as president Trump stated

BCP1928 · May 13, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
Steel and Alumnium production are matters on National Security, they will be domestically produced just as president Trump stated

OK, but that is hardly Canada's fault.

Truth7t7 · May 13, 2025

Bradskii said:
You can't make enough to cover your own needs, let along export it: https://money.usnews.com/investing/...-does-the-u-s-get-its-steel-and-aluminum-from

'The U.S. aluminum smelting industry is small by global standards. Total smelter capacity in the country was just 1.73% of the global total according to the U.S. Geological Survey.'

And:

'The US imported nearly all the bauxite (the only commercial aluminum ore) used in producing primary aluminum. For years, the US has produced less than 1% of the bauxite used to make aluminum.'

And guess where you get 45% of refractory-grade calcined bauxite? China. Bauxite and alumina

Trump has bounced around so much on tariffs that I can't be definite about this, but the section 232 tariffs on Aluminium is 25%. So far from making a profit in exporting it, companies that need it are going to pay 25% more for it.

Still think it's a great idea?

Steel and Alumnium production are issues of National Security, they'll be made domestically, same applies to pharmaceuticals

Truth7t7 · May 13, 2025

BCP1928 said:
OK, but that is hardly Canada's fault.

Never stated it was, president Trump will keep 25% tariffs on Canada just as he stated, the Canadian surplus with the US on trade will soon dissappear

BCP1928 · May 13, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
Never stated it was, president Trump will keep 25% tariffs on Canada just as he stated, the Canadian surplus with the US on trade will soon dissappear

By reducing the overall volume of trade. OK.

Belk · May 13, 2025

mark46 said:
Over half of Americans subscribe to Netflix and to Amazon Prime without the federal government being involved. It is not clear why the federal government should be funding television and radio networks.

There are many places where the federal government should be spending MORE money,

The number of individuals who subscribe to streaming services does not address my concerns for why I want public broadcasting funded.

Belk · May 13, 2025

mark46 said:
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Pick your favorite TV show. I love x. Therefore, the federal government should pay for it? Nonsense.

That is not my argument. My argument is that public broadcasting provides unique and valuable educational programing that is not found anywhere else. PBS gives a glimpse into what television can be, a tool that can educate and inform while it entertains. It can broaden our horizons and serve as a public good that elevates our discourse and allows us disseminate arts and culture to a broad audience.

Truth7t7 · May 13, 2025

Belk said:
That is not my argument. My argument is that public broadcasting provides unique and valuable educational programing that is not found anywhere else. PBS gives a glimpse into what television can be, a tool that can educate and inform while it entertains. It can broaden our horizons and serve as a public good that elevates our discourse and allows us disseminate arts and culture to a broad audience.

PBS is a liberal political biased outlet and as a conservative I don't want my taxpayer dollars funding it, president Trump feels the same

If you like PBS take the monies out of your personal bank account to support it

Belk · May 13, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
PBS is a liberal political biased outlet and as a conservative I don't want my taxpayer dollars funding it, president Trump feels the same

If you like PBS take the monies out of your personal bank account to support it

So many conservatives have claimed since it's inception. When you come up with an argument that does not rest on your own personal bias let me know.

Truth7t7 · May 13, 2025

Belk said:
So many conservatives have claimed since it's inception. When you come up with an argument that does not rest on your own personal bias let me know.

I'm not the only conservative that believes PBS is a leftist liberal media outlet funded by taxpayer dollars, many desire to see PBS defunded

Im thrilled to see president Trumps executive orders and will be ecstatic when PBS is completely defunded

If Americans want to continue watching it let them fund it simple

Belk · May 13, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
I'm not the only conservative that PBS is a leftist liberal media outlet funded by taxpayer dollars, many desire to see PBS defunded

Of course you are not the only conservative. There have been conservatives calling to de-fund it since it's inception. This is nothing new.

Truth7t7 said:
Om thrilled to see Trump executive and will be ecstatic when it's completely defended

Trump has no say in funding. Congress has the power of the purse, not the executive.

Truth7t7 said:
If Americans want it to continue watching it let them fund it simple

Americans, through their elected representatives, have continued to fund it via their tax dollars. If they convince congress they no longer desire to do so, then so be it. Until then they will continue to receive their allocated funding.

Pommer · May 13, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
You apparently didn't hear president Trump and his televised meeting with Canadian PM Carney

America doesn't need Canada's Alumnium, Steel, or Lumber

American Manufacturing Jobs Not Canadian, America First!

You can repeat yourself 100 more times, it's not gonna change

How does this square with Trump’s overtures to make Canada our 51st State?

Pommer · May 13, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
I'm not the only conservative that PBS is a leftist liberal media outlet funded by taxpayer dollars, many desire to see PBS defunded

Om thrilled to see Trump executive and will be ecstatic when it's completely defended

If Americans want it to continue watching it let them fund it simple

“Why should the government be interested in supporting entities that are conducive to having a moderately well-informed citizenry?”

BCP1928 · May 13, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
PBS is a liberal political biased outlet and as a conservative I don't want my taxpayer dollars funding it, president Trump feels the same

If you like PBS take the monies out of your personal bank account to support it

I don't know, I like it and I will certainly continue to support my local station, but as for political bias (if any) it always struck me as being a little farther to the right than I would really like.

Bradskii · May 13, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
Steel and Alumnium production are issues of National Security, they'll be made domestically, same applies to pharmaceuticals

It has just been explained to you that you haven't the capacity to do that. You can't ignore reality and make up your own.

probinson · May 13, 2025

Akita Suggagaki said:
Who controls you?

That's actually a good question for everyone.

Generally, I find that people who are being influenced by propaganda will repost from the same sources repeatedly. Of course, the liberals will point to Fox News as an example, and I would agree. But I have some liberal Facebook friends that continuously post everything Brian Tyler Cohen or Occupy Democrats.

If you find yourself relying on one or two sources for everything, there's a good chance you're being propagandized whether you realize it or not.

While I realize I am not immune to propaganda and attempted media control/influence, I try to diversify what I read and post. That's a good way to help yourself remain at least somewhat objective.

mark46 · May 13, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
Steel and Alumnium production are matters on National Security, they will be domestically produced just as president Trump stated

Fine

Then Trump should say that. I happen to agree that we should make sure that we maintain US production of aluminum and steel. BTW, Japan will likely be operating many of our steel plants, and that's fine as long as the production is here.

HOWEVER, Trump should stop saying that these tariffs will bring US more manufacturing jobs when they will much more likely result in fewer because of the increased cost of production and therefore fewer manufactured goods being produced.
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And I haven't a clue as to why anyone thinks that not purchasing Canadian steel and aluminum will help the non-problem of a non-existent trade deficit in goods and services between the US and Canada. Surely, we know that Canadian consumers will buy fewer US goods, especially goods that are made of aluminum or steel (and lots of other products. This will take ZERO action from the Canadian government.
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JUST BY THE WAY
There is trade deficit in energy. Canada sells lots and lots of electricity to the North of the US. If the US wants to tax this at even10%, the cost to US consumers will be higher, and Canada will likely ship less by reducing their production.

mark46 · May 13, 2025

Belk said:
That is not my argument. My argument is that public broadcasting provides unique and valuable educational programing that is not found anywhere else. PBS gives a glimpse into what television can be, a tool that can educate and inform while it entertains. It can broaden our horizons and serve as a public good that elevates our discourse and allows us disseminate arts and culture to a broad audience.

OK, we all have our priorities for spending by the federal government. Personally, I believe that education should be a state and local function with decisions made at the local levels. I'm fine with revenue sharing if we want the rich states to subsidize the poorer states. IMO, the federal governments only role should be to enforce civil rights, employment and health standards at schools, and provide funds to the local governments.
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A country that cannot even provide health care for its citizens and cannot provide a decent safety net for its poor SHOULD NOT spend money administering and choosing which education programs to fund. And, yes, I am a liberal and would prefer that there be NO Department of Education. It does not take a department to transfer monies from the federal government to the states. .

Truth7t7 · May 14, 2025

Pommer said:
How does this square with Trump’s overtures to make Canada our 51st State?

Trump's Troll, he has no intent of such

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