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Act 2:37-41 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? (38) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. (39) For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. (40) And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. (41) Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Plenty more. They'll all be posted. Neither side has the "clencher" prooftext. My take is it falls on which side of the fence you want to put man's will. I see it layng on the side of the profane, a steaming heap of filth. A credo-baptist picks it up, brushes it off, plops it on the side of the sanctified, and waits for it to bleat approval before he declares it acceptable. That's the crux of the matter.Act 16:23-33 And when they had laid many stripes upon them, they cast them into prison, charging the jailor to keep them safely: (24) Who, having received such a charge, thrust them into the inner prison, and made their feet fast in the stocks. (25) And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them. (26) And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed. (27) And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled. (28) But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here. (29) Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, (30) And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? (31) And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (32) And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. (33) And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
I'm in a similar position, but I want to see their argument for it.Actually I don't believe in paedobaptism. Fortunately it looks like there's room for people like myself in the PCA. Of course it helps that my pastor sympathizes with this view as well.
thank you, not looking for debate just for a deeper understanding.The debate is silly unless you take into account the fact that paedobaptism is understood from a belief in an overarching Covenant Theology.
I recommend that you read what the WCF has to say and then work from there: http://www.reformed.org/documents/wcf_with_proofs/ch_XXVIII.html
Michael Horton's book God of Promise is a good primer on Covenant Theology.
The debate is silly unless you take into account the fact that paedobaptism is understood from a belief in an overarching Covenant Theology.
I recommend that you read what the WCF has to say and then work from there: http://www.reformed.org/documents/wcf_with_proofs/ch_XXVIII.html
Michael Horton's book God of Promise is a good primer on Covenant Theology.
Give me some scriptures (and resources) arguing for paedobaptism.
Give me some scriptures (and resources) arguing for paedobaptism.
eh, so far everything has been pretty weak which is surprising with the academic rigor which presbies historically stand for
I think most of us, at least I am, are a little lazy right now, so instead of making the long arguments we usually do with the anti-paedobaptists, we would rather send you to sites that already have them made up.
Someone else said that to really understand paedobaptism, an understanding of Covenant Theology is a big help, for paedobaptism is within that context.
Here are some places to read up on it:
http://www.monergism.com/directory/link_category/Covenant-Theology/
http://www.frontlinemin.org/paedo.asp
http://theologica.blogspot.com/2007/08/case-for-paedobaptism.html
I knew you wouldn't dissapoint.Also, I would recommend reading a sound systematician like Charles Hodge. Understanding the distinction between the visible and invisible church is key.
Hodge's writings: http://www.ccel.org/h/hodge/
See Vol. III of his Systematic Theology for the section on baptism.
I knew you wouldn't dissapoint.
Ahhhhhhh shucks.That's why I love you presbies
By the way... once you're "converted" you can go here and start looking for a church: http://opc.org/directory.html
By the way... once you're "converted" you can go here and start looking for a church: http://opc.org/directory.html
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