Prejudice?

[BenTsion]

Hi guys,
A Messianic friend of mine was on a live chat with on the of the rabbis at
askmoses.com and, according to him, they were quite rude to him when they
found out he was Messianic. Because of the fact that they hold no-one can
believe Yeshua is the Messiah, and still be a Jew, he decided to prove their
prejudice.

Though I do not approve of him lying even if it is for an alledged 'good cause',
I must say that I was indeed intrigued by the script he sent me.
So, I'd like to share it with you and ask what you think.

I felt very sad when I realized that we could believe the exact same thing
we do nowadays as long as the person we believed to be HaShem incarnated
were not Yeshua, and we would still be accepted as part of the Jewish community.
Now, because it is Yeshua, then "we're no longer Jews"...

Anyway, here's the transcript... let me know what you think of it... (should
be good 'fuel' for a nice discussion)

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Aaron: Hi... I have a serious problem, can you help?

Askmoses.com Rabbi: i can try

Aaron: I have this friend whom I have feelings for, we've been friends since
childhood, and recently she's gotten involved with a kabbalistic group
She asked me to attend a shul at her synagogue and so I went and I was
totally shocked. After shul, I was talking to the rabbi and he openly admitted that they
believe Rebbe Lubavitch was a manifestation of G-d on Earth and that he
is to be worshipped. I was like so shocked because my friend shares that belief
I was going to propose to her, so I went to the rabbi of the synagogue I attend
(reformed) and asked if I could marry her

Askmoses.com Rabbi: just a min

Aaron: And he said I couldn't because due to that belief she was no longer a
Jew, so marrying her would be like marrying a goy
ok, I'll hold

Askmoses.com Rabbi: it is not so simple

Aaron: Is he right that I should consider her a goy?

Askmoses.com Rabbi: no

Aaron: So, can I marry her?

Askmoses.com Rabbi: she is still a jew

Aaron: But what are the implications of her belief?

Askmoses.com Rabbi: she needs to talk to someone that can help straighten her out

Aaron: And let's suppose she doesn't... can I still marry her or should I look
for another girl? Problem is I think she is 'the one', you know?

Askmoses.com Rabbi: if you think she is the one then you can work out your differences

Aaron: What a relief... I was so worried!!! Thanks for your help!!! G-d bless you!!!

 

[Hix]

Chabad Lubavitchers who think the Rebbe is Mochiach dont worship him....I dunno were that came from *scratches head* And they certainly wouldnt believe in anyone being a manifestation of G-d on earth as that is idolitary. They dont believe he should be worshipped but they actually do believe he is still around, or at least his spirit is.
Sounds kinda familiar huh?

But the main point is if you are a Jew by halacha then you will always be a Jew, and even Rabbinic Jews admit that those who are messianic and are Jews by halacha are still Jewish. Unfortunatly I regret to say that MJism is still considered to be out of Judaism, I hope and pray some day that will change. But I can honestly say that if there WERE any Hassidim who worshipped the Rebbe then they would be seen as idolitarious too. Worship is to HaShem and HaShem alone, that is the principle of Judaism.

I attend an Orthodox Jewish Shul and everyone there knows Im Messianic, and I know of many others who attend synagogues across the world such as Israel who are messianic and believe in Yeshua without any problems at all. Id like to think some day that this would be the way it is everywere.

Shalom and G-d bless
~Hix~

 

[Henaynei]

I believe that "Aaron" made up the fictitious kabbalistic girl friend and her worship of R.Schneerson as a tool to show the hippocracy of the rabbi(s) on askmoses.com.

If this conversation is accurately reported then it does demonstrate the clear bias against R. Yeshua.

However, it does NOT show anything new or not well known as relates to the attitude of the leadership in the Jewish community when it comes to Yeshua.

Even the Israeli Supreme Court, some 5 years ago, finally decreed that MJism is not Christianity - but they still held/hold that it IS "another religion" other than Judaism.

Only G-d can change these things........ "Wait, I say, Wait, on the L-rd."

Going around being suprised, amazed or hurt by the views of the Jewish community as a whole will serve us nothing except to strengthen their censure.