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I am trying to find an official Adventist view on Predestination.

I can find a number of forum discussions where contributors say SDAs are against predestination, but I can't find anything official, or any Ellen White discussions on it.

Can anyone assist please?

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Since I have had no replies to this question, perhaps I can offer some clarification.

I am interested in finding official sources that give the church position on election and predestination, although I am also happy to also discuss the topic. Does anywhere here think there is an official church position on this issue?


I thought Adventists accepted the Semi-Pelagian view of predestination, but I am really looking for sources to confirm or deny this.

Thanks again for your help!
 
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Here are links to a couple of articles that I found on the Adventist Biblical Research Institute site:
http://www.adventistbiblicalresearch.org/Biblequestions/predestination.htm
http://www.adventistbiblicalresearch.org/Biblequestions/Elected.htm

See this link for more articles from the BRI on soteriological issues from an Adventist perspective:
http://www.adventistbiblicalresearch.org/documents.htm#salvation
 
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Thanks for the links, I'll take a look at them.

Are you studying the Bible Study Guide on Christian Discipleship? Tuesday's lesson is quite interesting on this issue - the author says that anyone who responds to Jesus' call is still moved first by the will of God - it even says "salvation is all of grace".
 
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I have now read these articles and they are in favour of predestination as understood by Calvin and the other major Christian theologians, however it is strange there is so little Adventist discussion of it and the church has no official position on the subject.

Thanks again for your help.
 
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I have to say one thing I did find surprising in the discussion is that some Adventists take the view that everyone will be saved. The fact this is being discussed I assume means it isn't just one or two people who hold this view.
 
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I highly doubt that they are similar to Calvin on predestination. There are two camps in Christianity on predestination they are the Calvinist and the Arminian views.


There are only a few Adventists that I have dealt with that believe in universal salvation. It would be a very small minority in Adventism.
 
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Hi HeavenOnEarthNow,

I notice that you have read this weeks Sabbath School Lesson in the Bible Study sub-forum. Did you also read the introduction thread for this entire quarter's topic of discipleship? If you didn't I think you will enjoy it.

You said in one of your post: You have noticed a very important point. It is only through the unction of the Holy Spirit that man takes the first step in accepting the grace offered through Jesus Christ. It is the unction of the Holy Spirit that first convicts man of his need for that grace. That is ofcourse part of the mistery of Godliness and the evidence of God's will that none should be lost. However God does not usurp our free will to accept or reject that grace which is offered.


You will also notice that in all of Scripture there are only two times in the Christian experience when God comes to man. That is when man is being convicted of his sinfulness, and when He comes to gather up the saved at His second coming. In all other responses it is man which must accept that grace and come to Jesus Christ for salvation.


Since I find myself rather pressed for time at the moment, I'll come back with futher explination. Feel free to ask anyother questions you may wish to ask.


Respectfully, your brother in Christ,
Doc
 
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