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I need prayer for a new believer who self harms and is feeling very down he wants to have a fire for God but struggles deeply please pray for him for me
Please don't misunderstand me, but these do not sound like the actions of someone who has received the Spirit of God. Self harm has demonic origins, and is precisely the type of thing that the blood of Christ would cleanse someone of if in fact they had been converted. Perhaps you are confusing seeker with believer?
 
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Please don't misunderstand me, but these do not sound like the actions of someone who has received the Spirit of God. Self harm has demonic origins, and is precisely the type of thing that the blood of Christ would cleanse someone of if in fact they had been converted. Perhaps you are confusing seeker with believer?
he is a struggling believer yes even if he was a seeker only that just means he needs prayer all the more. not all chains are instantly removed as paul himself said when he asked for the thorn in his side to be removed

Gods grace is sufficent and this person has only come to Christ just recently this is a vunerable state without guidence and satan would love to his claws back into his life which is why I think he struggles so much with demonic attacks these attacks didn't happen until he came to Christ
 
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he is a struggling believer yes even if he was a seeker only that just means he needs prayer all the more. not all chains are instantly removed as paul himself said when he asked for the thorn in his side to be removed

Gods grace is sufficent and this person has only come to Christ just recently this is a vunerable state without guidence and satan would love to his claws back into his life which is why I think he struggles so much with demonic attacks these attacks didn't happen until he came to Christ
If you don't mind, a first name would be helpful. And thank you for the clarification as to when these attacks began. I would still put him in the seeker category, but whatever the case, I will pray for him.
If you have not yet taken it upon yourself to fast for your friend, this might be a good time to do so.
 
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I pray that God would work in this new believer and make him strong in Christ. I also pray that God would help him to stop self-harming and make him feel better. In Jesus' name, amen.
 
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@JonasDaniels I have not yet learned his actual name but his user name is enril which may be an actual name and yeah he may be a seeker or he may be a believer either way thank you for praying many blessings to you all
Thank you Agra. Is this someone you met in a thread here? I ask because, I've noticed many people come here looking for attention more than help. Sometimes they even post multiple threads repeating the same things, and often they don't stick around very long, or they make it obvious that help, or Christ, is not really what they are seeking. Be wise brother, that's all I'm saying.

In regard to your friend, I was going to add them to my prayer list for later, but felt the Spirit move upon me to pray for them, and you, as I read your reply.

I am 100% convinced, and I have no idea how or why God chooses to do things this way (though I fully expect someone, if not more than one, will feel inclined to chime in on this matter and enlighten us) that we are to pray fervently for the lost and one another, and that those prayers deeply impact the spiritual realm. So yes, I'm praying, and encouraging you to continue doing the same.

To be called, truly called, to a ministry of prayer may be one of the greatest blessing Our Father could bestow upon His children. This at least, has been my experience. And I am by no means what I would call a prayer warrior. Maybe some day.

Be blessed. Be at peace, In Jesus Most Holy Name.
 
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Please don't misunderstand me, but these do not sound like the actions of someone who has received the Spirit of God. Self harm has demonic origins, and is precisely the type of thing that the blood of Christ would cleanse someone of if in fact they had been converted.
I disagree with this, and these statements strike me as a very nasty thing to say. Being a believer in Christ does not magically dismiss mental illness or suicidal ideation or self-harming. The fallen sin nature of mankind does enough damage without the demonic powers needing to intervene. The sanctification process does not happen overnight. Thus, my prayer is as follows:

Dear Lord, I pray for relief for the young child whom You have called to yourself. Help him to understand Your truth that his body is a temple of the Holy Spirit and is not to be harmed, and help him to find something else to do when the urge to self-harm comes. Indeed, You have written that You will not allow us to be tempted beyond what we are able, so be with this young believer to allow him to stand for his faith and give him the support and space he needs to get his armor together and regroup. In Christ’s Name, Amen
 
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I disagree with this, and these statements strike me as a very nasty thing to say. Being a believer in Christ does not magically dismiss mental illness or suicidal ideation or self-harming. The fallen sin nature of mankind does enough damage without the demonic powers needing to intervene. The sanctification process does not happen overnight. Thus, my prayer is as follows:

Dear Lord, I pray for relief for the young child whom You have called to yourself. Help him to understand Your truth that his body is a temple of the Holy Spirit and is not to be harmed, and help him to find something else to do when the urge to self-harm comes. Indeed, You have written that You will not allow us to be tempted beyond what we are able, so be with this young believer to allow him to stand for his faith and give him the support and space he needs to get his armor together and regroup. In Christ’s Name, Amen
Its interesting to me that you chose not to quote my entire response to Agra before making your comment. Removing the final line of my post to help bolster your position. Maybe you should have read our entire conversation before offering your reactionary response. The OP did not take exception to my comment, and there is no reason that they should have, it was biblically accurate, and followed up with a question, which you chose to omit. What you call "nasty", I call wisdom, and speaking the truth in love. Other than your public prayer, have you actually prayed for this person, or Agra?

If you disagreed with what I said, you could have asked for clarification, we could have discussed the matter. But that's not how things work here in this christian forum is it?
Why would anyone assume the best about their fellow brother or sister when you can just be rude and judgmental instead? No reason apparently. I will reread your comment and take it into consideration, which is much more than you did for me. Thanks for your input.
 
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Its interesting to me that you chose not to quote my entire response to Agra before making your comment. Removing the final line of my post to help bolster your position. Maybe you should have read our entire conversation before offering your reactionary response. The OP did not take exception to my comment, and there is no reason that they should have, it was biblically accurate, and followed up with a question, which you chose to omit. What you call "nasty", I call wisdom, and speaking the truth in love. Other than your public prayer, have you actually prayed for this person, or Agra?

If you disagreed with what I said, you could have asked for clarification, we could have discussed the matter. But that's not how things work here in this christian forum is it?
Why would anyone assume the best about their fellow brother or sister when you can just be rude and judgmental instead? No reason apparently. I will reread your comment and take it into consideration, which is much more than you did for me. Thanks for your input.
What Scripture do you have to declare all people who self-harm demon possessed?
 
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What Scripture do you have to declare all people who self-harm demon possessed?
What quote do you have from me, that states "all people who self harm are demon possessed"?
None. Putting words in someone's mouth is probably not the best way to begin your argument.

But since you asked. There were many people, and reasonably, a great many more than are recorded in scripture, who were brought before Christ with what the modern world view would diagnose as mental illness. In each and every case (if you find one to the contrary please inform me) Christ departed from His normal methods of healing (forgiveness of sin, commands to rise up and walk, making clay etc.) and instead, cast out a demon. You can find the scriptures easily enough for yourself.

My statement (not the one you falsely attributed to me was, "self harm has demonic origins". I stand by that statement, and refer you to Marks Gospel
"And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones."
Did Christ, The Great Physician, counsel this man? Did He refer him to a good shrink? Did He prescribe psychotropic medication? Or recommend a twelve step program?
No, He did not. He cast out a demon, a legion of demons in this particular case.
 
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Heavenly Father, Holy is Your Name, we pray You will strengthen this new believer and fill him with Your Holy Spirit, in the Name of Jesus. Amen and Amen.
@Pop D. ,
I will be praying for you. Much like yourself I too am looking for 2025 to be a new beginning for myself and my girlfriend. :) Keep the faith my friend. God bless!
 
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