Poll on whether to allow full discussion of homosexuality in TLT, part deux

Tallguy88 · Aug 18, 2016

bettercallpaul said:
Any Aussie mods then? I think Paidiske is a trainee now, no?
How many of the mods are American?
I feel like I'm visiting the U.S. here, every time I login.

Not sure about Australians. We have at least two Canadians and I think one UK mod.

tadoflamb · Aug 18, 2016

I don't think it bodes well that I don't recognize the majority of 'yes' votes as active participants in this forum.

Davidnic · Aug 18, 2016

tadoflamb said:
I don't think it bodes well that I don't recognize the majority of 'yes' votes as active participants in this forum.

Indeed.

Shiloh Raven · Aug 18, 2016

tadoflamb said:
I don't think it bodes well that I don't recognize the majority of 'yes' votes as active participants in this forum.

I am an active participant of this forum and yet I have no say. Do you, Tad? You are also an active participant of this forum.

tadoflamb · Aug 18, 2016

voices that carry said:
I am an active participant of this forum and yet I have no say. Do you, Tad? You are also an active participant of this forum.

I am, but I can't in good conscience call my self a liberal theologian.

If I could vote, I'd probably vote 'no', because I see a storm brewing.....

Tallguy88 · Aug 18, 2016

voices that carry said:
I am an active participant of this forum and yet I have no say. Do you, Tad? You are also an active participant of this forum.

You aren't Catholic. This is a Catholic forum. If it was a an unaffiliated Christian forum that'd be different.

If you were in RCIA I could let it slide because catechumens are members of the Church. But I've never seen you say that you are seriously considering becoming Catholic. As such, it's not fair to the Catholics who consider this their home forum to allow non Catholics to decide the rules for the forum.

You are certainly welcome to voice your opinion on the subject, however. Maybe you'll sway some people to vote the way you would want.

Davidnic · Aug 18, 2016

tadoflamb said:
I am, but I can't in good conscience call my self a liberal theologian.

If I could vote, I'd probably vote 'no', because I see a storm brewing.....

As do I, I worry it is the same storm that ended the old TLT. But I do not espouse Liberal/Modernist theology expressed into Catholic Theology so I am not voting.

anjelica · Aug 18, 2016

I am not voting because I do not fit into what I understand the title Liberal Catholic to mean. If others wish to dscuss luberal theolgy I am well able to do that and would probably join in as my sight allows. But I cannot vote

Colin · Aug 18, 2016

anjelica said:
I am not voting because I do not fit into what I understand the title Liberal Catholic to mean.

Seems quite a few of us are in the same boat , Anjelica, but at least you appear you understand what Liberal Catholic means .

anjelica · Aug 18, 2016

LOL Colin. I am actually teaditional but again, as you say,we are all traditional.

Colin · Aug 19, 2016

anjelica said:
LOL Colin. I am actually teaditional but again, as you say,we are all traditional.

Yes , Anjelica , I have said that we are all by nature of being Catholics traditional .

I also said that I would not vote in this poll because of my objection to the forum being labelled "Liberal" .

As a result of some of the posts which have been made on other threads today I have changed my mind .

I have voted "No" to opening up full discussion of homosexuality and same sex marriage at The Lord's Table .

Davidnic · Aug 19, 2016

For the record Colin I do understand why you don't like the liberal name. And I do understand your arguments that Catholicism cannot be divided in such ways.

Colin · Aug 20, 2016

Davidnic said:
For the record Colin I do understand why you don't like the liberal name. And I do understand your arguments that Catholicism cannot be divided in such ways.

I appreciate that , David .

Perhaps , learning from some of the thinkers who are popular on this forum , we ought to put into practice their thinking .

Father Rohr , for example , with his emphasis on "both/and" rather than "either/or" .

In his way of thinking I am more than happy to class myself as both "conservative" and "progressive" in my Catholicism .

Davidnic · Aug 23, 2016

Armoured · Aug 23, 2016

Colin said:
I appreciate that , David .

Perhaps , learning from some of the thinkers who are popular on this forum , we ought to put into practice their thinking .

Father Rohr , for example , with his emphasis on "both/and" rather than "either/or" .

In his way of thinking I am more than happy to class myself as both "conservative" and "progressive" in my Catholicism .

+1. I personally identify as a conservative. But given the current dichotomy of the forums, I find myself with more common ground here than with my erstwhile allies.

Armoured · Aug 23, 2016

Tallguy88 said:
You aren't Catholic. This is a Catholic forum. If it was a an unaffiliated Christian forum that'd be different.

Only active members of this forum may vote. A specific faith icon is not required, however, you must be a known member of this forum.

Davidnic · Aug 23, 2016

Armoured said:
Only active members of this forum may vote. A specific faith icon is not required, however, you must be a known member of this forum.

A faith icon...meaning some Catholics wear ones that are basic Christian rather than Catholic. Active Members. Only Catholics are considered members. So only Catholics can vote.

Armoured · Aug 23, 2016

Davidnic said:
A faith icon...meaning some Catholics wear ones that are basic Christian rather than Catholic. Active Members. Only Catholics are considered members. So only Catholics can vote.

O...kay...

Davidnic · Aug 23, 2016

Armoured said:
O...kay...

Remember back to when icons determined access to forums? And there were issues when someone wore the general Christian one and interacted in denomination ones. The icon wording stems from that time. There are also multi access forums where members can be of any group. So the icon language gets broadly used, but in forums where there is an affiliation needed for membership a person must be that to be a voting member.

So those who can vote here must be Catholics and identify as such. They can wear a few different icons...off the top of my hear the generic Christian and the Catholic one were the most used. But we do not even have icons anymore...we have the faith name. But some Catholics still list general Christian as their faith.

So that is why the poll phrasing (that is used for all the polls on this issue) is worded like that.

Shiloh Raven · Aug 23, 2016

Davidnic said:
A faith icon...meaning some Catholics wear ones that are basic Christian rather than Catholic. Active Members. Only Catholics are considered members. So only Catholics can vote.

But it says "Only active members of this forum may vote. A specific faith icon is not required, however, you must be a known member of this forum."

Emphasize mine.

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