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Originally posted by oncewaslost
evolution is studied way more than creationism. not a word is breathed about creationism. odd, don't you think?
Originally posted by Not Prince Hamlet
Great. Now explain to me how you would interpret "under God" to mean "under no God". (This ought to be good.)
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Originally posted by TheBear
I was wrong about Boston firefighters being forced to march in a gay pride parade.
It was Providence, Rhode Island firefighters.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/647803/posts
I'll need to do a little more digging.
John
Originally posted by Not Prince Hamlet
I am an atheist. I am excluded by the act. Ergo, the act is disenfranchising at least one person. Q.E.D.
Originally posted by MyJhongFist
I know 2 different atheists who have for many years opted out on the 2 words 'under god' during pledges. They have no problem doing so, nor are they offended that anyone else says the 2 words.
I don't see a problem with this in the slightest.
In a person's own mind, 'under God' could possibly mean 'whatever the origin of the universe is......'
Originally posted by MyJhongFist
Oh gee, out of millions of people, one may be offended. When does the constitution ever guarantee that this would not happen?
Originally posted by Not Prince Hamlet
You've got to be kidding me.
Jeff
Originally posted by MyJhongFist
Once again, you are underestimating the human mind's capability to correlate a pre rehearsed speech into their own ideology.
As stated before, I have no problem transferring Buddhist or Taoist koans to Christian prayers. Does that make me special???? Nope. Just open minded.
Originally posted by Not Prince Hamlet
Now, if you want to start talking numbers, that's an entirely different matter. Have I mentioned that majority rules is great if you happen to be the majority?
Originally posted by MyJhongFist
'Majority Rules' should be fine, regardless of where you stand, if you personally are still allowed to hold your own beliefs.
the majority can say whatever, but I personally will always believe in Christ without being offended by what others say.
Just as you could proudly declare yourself an atheist regardless of what others say.
I have always thrived on being 'one of those freaks'.....
Originally posted by Not Prince Hamlet
This is what's called "anecdotal evidence". Your friend may claim to have met Elvis at the supermarket. Doesn't prove a thing.
Originally posted by MyJhongFist
Ahh.. So your contention is that no atheist would possibly, ever just easy-goingly accept that their beliefs are not the norm?
Originally posted by Not Prince Hamlet
So, extending your statement, the Nazis were right to exterminate the Jews. The Jews were outnumbered, after all, and they were never told they couldn't continue to believe as they did.
Jeff
Originally posted by Not Prince Hamlet
John,
Yeah, that's not a very convincing interview. I can't determine what exactly happened from that one. Please do post more articles on that, if you can.
I for one don't think anybody should be forced to march in any parade whose values do not represent your own. If he forced homophobes to march in the parade, then in my opinion, he was wrong to do so.
Jeff
Originally posted by Not Prince Hamlet
My contention is that two atheist buddies of yours is not a sufficient sample size to extrapolate the whole of atheist thought. You have not shown that all atheists or even most atheists feel this way. You have shown is that two atheists claimed that they felt this way.
Originally posted by Not Prince Hamlet
So, extending your statement, the Nazis were right to exterminate the Jews. The Jews were outnumbered, after all, and they were never told they couldn't continue to believe as they did.
Jeff
Originally posted by MyJhongFist
I never said that my personal experience was a scientific survey. But if two atheists are mature enough to feel this way, why couldn't it be a decent experience to draw a conclusion from?
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