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I've been trying to pray out loud recently, I'm failing terribly. A lot of things that were just impulsive thoughts come straight out of my mouth now. I was watching an old show I liked and I randomly said that I revoked my salvation. I don't like this. I don't want this. But now I feel like Hell is all around me and God is angry, really really angry with me. I feel like I'm in panic attack and nauseous. I was keeping through Luke still, and Luke 6 today mentioned

“The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:45‬ ‭ESV‬‬

I've heard arguments both ways. Either what comes out of your mouth reflects your heart, or judgment of or words (more clearly referenced in Matthew 12 after the unpardonable sin passage) is only based on what you actually want to say. I feel so small and scared, I'm terrified my heart is evil and I'm doomed without a hope. I wish I could have the hope I used to.

I'm so afraid I'm lying to even myself and on judgement day will be exposed as a false prophet and liar and unbeliever. The people in my church are so OSAS they don't seem to try to imagine the terror I feel. God is both Love and Wrath.

Also in my terror I've said awful things about God. It's like a caged animal lashig out. Other times I just say things and I don't know where they come from and people say "then those thoughts aren't yours" but what if it's like Jesus sounds like He's saying that our words reveal our hearts not only words we mean count?
 
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I've been trying to pray out loud recently, I'm failing terribly. A lot of things that were just impulsive thoughts come straight out of my mouth now. I was watching an old show I liked and I randomly said that I revoked my salvation. I don't like this. I don't want this. But now I feel like Hell is all around me and God is angry, really really angry with me. I feel like I'm in panic attack and nauseous. I was keeping through Luke still, and Luke 6 today mentioned

“The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:45‬ ‭ESV‬‬

I've heard arguments both ways. Either what comes out of your mouth reflects your heart, or judgment of or words (more clearly referenced in Matthew 12 after the unpardonable sin passage) is only based on what you actually want to say. I feel so small and scared, I'm terrified my heart is evil and I'm doomed without a hope. I wish I could have the hope I used to.

I'm so afraid I'm lying to even myself and on judgement day will be exposed as a false prophet and liar and unbeliever. The people in my church are so OSAS they don't seem to try to imagine the terror I feel. God is both Love and Wrath.

Also in my terror I've said awful things about God. It's like a caged animal lashig out. Other times I just say things and I don't know where they come from and people say "then those thoughts aren't yours" but what if it's like Jesus sounds like He's saying that our words reveal our hearts not only words we mean count?
You found yourself agreeing with thought's that you were hearing or seeing, that didn't agree with God, and were rebellious and could even be constituted and affront or attack upon God, right?

And that is scary and causing you all kinds of problems, right...?

Well, welcome to the club... You've got a fight on your hands for sure, and with the enemy at that, those thoughts are from the enemy, fight them, resist them, change them, and talk to God, immediately about it, and apollogize, and ask for his help....

The good news is, this more than likely would not be happening, if you didn't have some kind of "higher purpose" or great calling from God in your life, in the future...

The enemy wants this to cause you to shut-up, and quit talking to God, in which case, he wins... However God wants you "talk" to him... Do not not talk to him about it all, OK...?

Be praying for you man, I struggle(d) with this sometimes too...

God Bless!
 
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You found yourself agreeing with thought's that you were hearing or seeing, that didn't agree with God, and were rebellious and could even be constituted and affront or attack upon God, right?

And that is scary and causing you all kinds of problems, right...?

Well, welcome to the club... You've got a fight on your hands for sure, and with the enemy at that, those thoughts are from the enemy, fight them, resist them, change them, and talk to God, immediately about it, and apollogize, and ask for his help....

The good news is, this more than likely would not be happening, if you didn't have some kind of "higher purpose" or great calling from God in your life, in the future...

The enemy wants this to cause you to shut-up, and quit talking to God, in which case, he wins... However God wants you "talk" to him... Do not not talk to him about it all, OK...?

Be praying for you man, I struggle(d) with this sometimes too...

God Bless!

I just have evil impulsive thoughts and I say things that just feel too natural. They feel like my thoughts. I don't want to be evil.
 
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I just have evil impulsive thoughts and I say things that just feel too natural. They feel like my thoughts. I don't want to be evil.
I hate to say this, but they are not your thoughts, were not alone, in our heads...

But it will only be or become that way, until you think or decide they either are, or are not... And you may not be able to, in time, get free of or from them, till you think or decide they are not...

Your where I was about six, seven years ago... To think or decide they are not your thoughts, can be scary, and can be the start of a psychosis... But the alternative, is never, in time, being free of them, and possibly losing out on eternity because of it...

I'm not going to lie to you, or say it will be easy, if you do this... cause it will not be, at first, at the start...

If you decide they are not yours, you will have to fight the enemy, and explain and apollogize to and with God, but, you'll begin to hear his thoughts also, when you begin, or decide to begin to make this distinction... And you'll have to learn and train yourself which is which, and what is what, and begin to rebuke the bad, and agree with the good...

It will not be easy if you decide to do this,

Be praying for you, I feel kindred to you...

God Bless!
 
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I hate to say this, but they are not your thoughts, were not alone, in our heads...

But it will only be or become that way, until you think or decide they either are, or are not... And you may not be able to, in time, get free of or from them, till you think or decide they are not...

Your where I was about six, seven years ago... To think or decide they are not your thoughts, can be scary, and can be the start of a psychosis... But the alternative, is never, in time, being free of them, and possibly losing out on eternity because of it...

I'm not going to lie to you, or say it will be easy, if you do this... cause it will not be, at first, at the start...

If you decide they are not yours, you will have to fight the enemy, and explain and apollogize to and with God, but, you'll begin to hear his thoughts also, when you begin, or decide to begin to make this distinction... And you'll have to learn and train yourself which is which, and what is what, and begin to rebuke the bad, and agree with the good...

It will not be easy if you decide to do this,

Be praying for you, I feel kindred to you...

God Bless!

I'm afraid they're not just intrusive thoughts. I've said them. Its terrifying.
 
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I'm afraid they're not just intrusive thoughts. I've said them. Its terrifying.
Why did you say them...? What did you say...? It had to start with a thought right...?

What was on your mind or what were you thinking about at the time...?

I would like to try and help you try and get down to the "root" of the problem, if I...? If, "we" can...?

God Bless!
 
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Why did you say them...? What did you say...? It had to start with a thought right...?

What was on your mind or what were you thinking about at the time...?

I would like to try and help you try and get down to the "root" of the problem, if I...? If, "we" can...?

God Bless!

Well sometimes my thoughts don't separate and go straight out of my mouth. Why I say awful things? I don't know. It feels to close. I started misspeaking and that scared me, it's mainly just gotten worse.
 
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We can choose what to attend to. We can pay attention to the bad thoughts and welcome them into our hearts, or we can pay attention to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, Son of God, and ask Him to have mercy on us (help us) sinners. I recommend studying the Eastern Orthodox "Jesus Prayer" from a well written guide somewhere, and practicing the prayer in order to receive Divine help in warding off the evil thoughts. Good night.
 
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Well sometimes my thoughts don't separate and go straight out of my mouth. Why I say awful things? I don't know. It feels to close. I started misspeaking and that scared me, it's mainly just gotten worse.
Look up on the web, "Thought stopping" and it might help... It is something they teach you in the Field of Psychology that might help you out...

It's some practices and principles on how to interrupt your thoughts before they come out of your mouth and deal with them on the level of thought...

But, then you'll have to deal with "wrong thoughts" if you can get "thought stopping" down...

God Bless!
 
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I've been trying to pray out loud recently, I'm failing terribly. A lot of things that were just impulsive thoughts come straight out of my mouth now. I was watching an old show I liked and I randomly said that I revoked my salvation. I don't like this. I don't want this. But now I feel like Hell is all around me and God is angry, really really angry with me. I feel like I'm in panic attack and nauseous. I was keeping through Luke still, and Luke 6 today mentioned

“The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:45‬ ‭ESV‬‬

I've heard arguments both ways. Either what comes out of your mouth reflects your heart, or judgment of or words (more clearly referenced in Matthew 12 after the unpardonable sin passage) is only based on what you actually want to say. I feel so small and scared, I'm terrified my heart is evil and I'm doomed without a hope. I wish I could have the hope I used to.

I'm so afraid I'm lying to even myself and on judgement day will be exposed as a false prophet and liar and unbeliever. The people in my church are so OSAS they don't seem to try to imagine the terror I feel. God is both Love and Wrath.

Also in my terror I've said awful things about God. It's like a caged animal lashig out. Other times I just say things and I don't know where they come from and people say "then those thoughts aren't yours" but what if it's like Jesus sounds like He's saying that our words reveal our hearts not only words we mean count?
I am in the exact same spot you are when it comes to praying out loud and I will pray for you but most importantly know that God loves you so much and he will always be with you and remember Jesus is Lord and he died for all of our sins. God is good and he will always love us and just try to keep your focus on Jesus and please pray to God and if you can't then you can try to pray in your mind but God will always be with you and he is good. I will be praying for you brother and please pray for me because I struggle praying to.
 
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I've been trying to pray out loud recently, I'm failing terribly. A lot of things that were just impulsive thoughts come straight out of my mouth now. I was watching an old show I liked and I randomly said that I revoked my salvation. I don't like this. I don't want this. But now I feel like Hell is all around me and God is angry, really really angry with me. I feel like I'm in panic attack and nauseous. I was keeping through Luke still, and Luke 6 today mentioned

“The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:45‬ ‭ESV‬‬

I've heard arguments both ways. Either what comes out of your mouth reflects your heart, or judgment of or words (more clearly referenced in Matthew 12 after the unpardonable sin passage) is only based on what you actually want to say. I feel so small and scared, I'm terrified my heart is evil and I'm doomed without a hope. I wish I could have the hope I used to.

I'm so afraid I'm lying to even myself and on judgement day will be exposed as a false prophet and liar and unbeliever. The people in my church are so OSAS they don't seem to try to imagine the terror I feel. God is both Love and Wrath.

Also in my terror I've said awful things about God. It's like a caged animal lashig out. Other times I just say things and I don't know where they come from and people say "then those thoughts aren't yours" but what if it's like Jesus sounds like He's saying that our words reveal our hearts not only words we mean count?
 
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I've been trying to pray out loud recently, I'm failing terribly. A lot of things that were just impulsive thoughts come straight out of my mouth now. I was watching an old show I liked and I randomly said that I revoked my salvation. I don't like this. I don't want this. But now I feel like Hell is all around me and God is angry, really really angry with me. I feel like I'm in panic attack and nauseous. I was keeping through Luke still, and Luke 6 today mentioned

“The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:45‬ ‭ESV‬‬

I've heard arguments both ways. Either what comes out of your mouth reflects your heart, or judgment of or words (more clearly referenced in Matthew 12 after the unpardonable sin passage) is only based on what you actually want to say. I feel so small and scared, I'm terrified my heart is evil and I'm doomed without a hope. I wish I could have the hope I used to.

I'm so afraid I'm lying to even myself and on judgement day will be exposed as a false prophet and liar and unbeliever. The people in my church are so OSAS they don't seem to try to imagine the terror I feel. God is both Love and Wrath.

Also in my terror I've said awful things about God. It's like a caged animal lashig out. Other times I just say things and I don't know where they come from and people say "then those thoughts aren't yours" but what if it's like Jesus sounds like He's saying that our words reveal our hearts not only words we mean count?[/QU

Dear deer glow, it looks like other people have already told you about the the major points, but I'll just change the words a little by saying we all have two voices in our heads, good and evil, one thing though that can make the evil overshadow good is the use of Marijuana, all it takes is a little bit of smoke in the air to do the same thing to me.. it really is from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, if your living in an apartment, you might not even smell it.
If you know that you'll come in contact with it, I would suggest using a mask, but for the apartment you might need a good air cleaner... I will pray for you and Yahweh knows your heart, the fact that you are concerned means that your not evil, it is possible that demons have a pull on you for some other reason, eating meat that's not fully cooked (blood), try to follow the Bible the best you can and I think someone said it best, your being tested, both Yahweh and Satan want you. Find out what Yahweh wants you to do and don't give in to Satan.
 
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I've been trying to pray out loud recently, I'm failing terribly. A lot of things that were just impulsive thoughts come straight out of my mouth now. I was watching an old show I liked and I randomly said that I revoked my salvation. I don't like this. I don't want this. But now I feel like Hell is all around me and God is angry, really really angry with me. I feel like I'm in panic attack and nauseous. I was keeping through Luke still, and Luke 6 today mentioned

“The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:45‬ ‭ESV‬‬

I've heard arguments both ways. Either what comes out of your mouth reflects your heart, or judgment of or words (more clearly referenced in Matthew 12 after the unpardonable sin passage) is only based on what you actually want to say. I feel so small and scared, I'm terrified my heart is evil and I'm doomed without a hope. I wish I could have the hope I used to.

I'm so afraid I'm lying to even myself and on judgement day will be exposed as a false prophet and liar and unbeliever. The people in my church are so OSAS they don't seem to try to imagine the terror I feel. God is both Love and Wrath.

Also in my terror I've said awful things about God. It's like a caged animal lashig out. Other times I just say things and I don't know where they come from and people say "then those thoughts aren't yours" but what if it's like Jesus sounds like He's saying that our words reveal our hearts not only words we mean count?

I hope this don't sound too crazy but I think you have an evil spirit and a pretty strong one if my initial reaction to your post is any indication. I am going to pray for you and I do hope you get some relief. The thing I advise you to do is every single time one of those evil thoughts enter your head is to say in the name of Jesus Christ be gone. Don't forget the word Christ because its important to identify Him as who He is. Otherwise they might not listen to you. I hope this helps and I am going to my room to pray for you right now.

Hugs
 
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We can choose what to attend to. We can pay attention to the bad thoughts and welcome them into our hearts, or we can pay attention to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, Son of God, and ask Him to have mercy on us (help us) sinners. I recommend studying the Eastern Orthodox "Jesus Prayer" from a well written guide somewhere, and practicing the prayer in order to receive Divine help in warding off the evil thoughts. Good night.

I'm not sure if I'm familiar with that, I'll look it up though.
 
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I am in the exact same spot you are when it comes to praying out loud and I will pray for you but most importantly know that God loves you so much and he will always be with you and remember Jesus is Lord and he died for all of our sins. God is good and he will always love us and just try to keep your focus on Jesus and please pray to God and if you can't then you can try to pray in your mind but God will always be with you and he is good. I will be praying for you brother and please pray for me because I struggle praying to.

I'm sure you understand the feeling, but I'm terrified it's too late. I'll pray for you too don't worry.
 
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