PLEASE! lets settle the issue,the final demon thread!

[pinetree]

Ya know...

With all these offshoot demon threads,subthreads,covert threads...

Can we just settle the issue HERE!

It seems that those who say a Spirit filled believer,can be possessed,or inhabited,never offer a drop of scripture to prove this unwritten,unscriptural teaching/doctrine.

Usually we hear things like.."I see spirits":o from the proponents..

That puts the issue into a purely personal subjective experience,not a scriptural one..

The proponents when asked to provide scripture,try a political tactict of asking ..

"sow me where it says a Christian cant have a demon?"

To that I would say..

The absence of the topic in scripture,is proof enough!

If God wanted us to know about it,it would be in the bible,like the infilling of the Holy Spirit is...

In fact,I will lead the way,and post scripture,,that show who we are in Christ,his children,not the devils!

And ask that any others that post,would please in their post,show how it pertains to a Spirit filled believer!



Luke 10:19
I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you


1 John 4:4
You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world

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15When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him.

We were crucified with Christ,so this shows that the power of the cross is for us too.

Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
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It is called the baptism of the Holy Spirt..

We are now empowered..!

We have power,not spirits of evil..

2 Corinthians 4:7
But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us.


2 Corinthians 10:4
The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.

Here also..

Acts 1:8
But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."

Check this out,Peter was changed,by the baptism.

Acts 4:8
Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them: "Rulers and elders of the people! 9If we are being called to account today for an act of kindness shown to a cripple and are asked how he was healed,


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Colossians 1:13
For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves,


1 Peter 2:9
But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God's OWN POSSESSION, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

If the proponents of the unseen doctrine,say this is true,then the burden of proof is on them..

I think the lack of scriptural proof,is the best proof of all,the fact that it is NOT mentioned,says more than anything..

Why after all,would the bible talk about that which does NOT exist?



Why didn't paul say this was evidence of a spirit,he did not,he said it was the awful flesh!

Galatians 5:19-20

19Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are:immorality, impurity, sensuality,
20idolatry,sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,

Colossians 3:5
Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry.
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kingdom of God is in us..

Luke 17:21
nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you."

Can it be divided?


24But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "It is only by Beelzebub,[d] the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons."
25Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? 27And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 28But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
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We are temples of the Holy Spirit,not a temple of the devil..

We are one spirit with the Lord,not a divided temple..

1 Corinthians 3:16
Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?
1 Corinthians 3:17
If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple.
reading this verse,one must ask..
1 Corinthians 6:17
But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit.

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How can spirits live in a saint,who has Jesus in them?

look how the spirits flee,when Jesus was there.. same Jesus in us now!

Matthew 8:32
He said to them, "Go!" So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water.
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Personally,I think it is the flesh run amuck!

Galatians 5:19-20

19Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are:immorality, impurity, sensuality,
20idolatry,sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,

Colossians 3:5
Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry.

 

[Optimax]

Great post there Faithtree!

Boy, am I glad that is settled.

 

[pinetree]

Great post there Faithtree!

Boy, am I glad that is settled.

Amen!
Faithtree and optimax are one in the Spirit!

 

[Cassidy]

I don't know if it will ever be settled because these people keep going by their own experiences!

 

[pinetree]

I don't know if it will ever be settled because these people keep going by their own experiences!

I know,they dont offer a drop of scripture,to support their views..

 

[Optimax]

Amen!
Faithtree and optimax are one in the Spirit!

Yes!

Like the dew of Hermon!

 

[Cassidy]

I know,they dont offer a drop of scripture,to support their views..

Then why bother? Honestly...the pull from their 'experiences' is far to strong for them to see the error in their ways.

 

[pinetree]

Then why bother? Honestly...the pull from their 'experiences' is far to strong for them to see the error in their ways.

I know what you mean..

It is good to speak to theses teachings on the forum...

 

[imperfectchristian]

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[ARBITER01]

Ya know...

With all these offshoot demon threads,subthreads,covert threads...

Can we just settle the issue HERE!

No, and this is why,..

Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be found true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy words, And mightest prevail when thou comest into judgment.

GOD is the authority that I want to hear on every subject. HE is the absolute truth in all matters that I lean on constantly.

When GOD shows me that you actually have anything to offer in the way of truth on this particular subject, HE will point that out to me, until then you are just grinding an axe for whatever reason on this topic with your personal scripture interpretations.

It's that simple.

 

[Angeloffire]

Can we just settle the issue HERE!

NO ONE CAN HAVE SOCKS! WHY? THEY AREN'T IN THE BIBLE! SO IF YOU HAVE A SOCK IN YOUR DRAWER PLEASE DISREGARD IT...IT ISN'T BIBLICAL!

 

[Cassidy]

I've been searching for an article written which best describes what I believe about this subject. The closest I've come across is this article. It deals with the fact that demonisation isn't in the bible and the need for ministries to be set up by men to fix what God 'forgot'. Which has been my position the whole time. I don't subscribe to this particular churches doctrine in anyway other than what is written here about demonisation and possession. And I've quote some bits and pieces that I found interesting as well....

http://www.svchapel.org/Resources/Articles/read_articles.asp?id=39

http://www.svchapel.org/Resources/Articles/read_articles.asp?id=40

http://www.svchapel.org/Resources/Articles/read_articles.asp?id=41

What's a Christian to do? According to Dickason, God neglected to include in His Word, instructions for victory over one of the Christian's most powerful enemies. So, where are we to turn? Dickason assures us that we can look to experience with confidence He admits, "The danger of basing our theology on experience is evident." Yet, since God's Word does not address the subject of the demonization of Christians, the SW teachers have felt free to develop a whole system of demonic warfare based on the supposed experiences of people.

Christians can be delivered from demonization:
Fortunately for us, Anderson has discovered a means of deliverance for the demon-controlled Christian. Where did he find his program? Certainly not in Scripture — remember the Bible apparently is unfamiliar with this problem. He did not find it even in the traditions of the great saints of the past. As a matter of fact, no one in the history of the church has ever taught the methods developed by Anderson — which tells us a couple of things. First, since this program is not based upon Scripture, and since it is brand new to the church, great caution is in order. Secondly, if Anderson is correct, then most of the saints of the past, who only had God's Word to guide them, have been hopelessly enslaved to demons — apparently without realizing it. What a sad thought!

6) The bottom line is that this method of sanctification is taught nowhere in the Bible. We surely can trust our Lord to have included a means of demonic deliverance if it had been needed.

BIBLICAL INSTRUCTION CONCERNING DEALING WITH DEMONS
That Satan and his demons are actively involved in attempting to destroy our lives is evident throughout Scripture. I Pet 5:8 perhaps sums up Satan's efforts and goals better than any other place in the Bible. The big question is how are we to deal with his onslaughts. Some are teaching today that we are to rebuke or bind Satan. Others tell us that we are to cast demons out of people by claiming the blood of Christ. (The Bondage Breaker pp 69, 84-88, 107, 111). Yet in the N.T. we are never instructed or commanded to cast out or bind demons.
When it comes to Satan we are taught to play a defensive role. When Believers go on the offensive against Satan they are stepping out of their legitimate bounds by becoming involved in situations which the Lord has never intended for them. Rather than instruction concerning exorcism, binding, rebuking, etc., we are taught (in the only three places in the N.T. where instruction concerning dealing with Satan is found) to resist the Devil (I Pet 5:6-9; Jas 4:7; Eph 6:10-18).
Satan's primary weapon is to get us to distrust God's Word. EPHESIANS 6
Only the Eph 6 passage teaches us how to resist by putting on the armor of God. Paul as a prisoner at the time he wrote the epistle of Ephesians, observed daily the protective armor of the soldiers that guarded him. Using the armor as an illustration, Paul explained to us how we can stand firm against the schemes of the Devil. Six pieces of armor are needed to fully protect the Believer against Satan's attacks.

CONCLUSION
The leadership within the SWM would claim that the above Biblical teachings on dealing with Satan are too simplistic. They would have us add to the Scriptures their experiences and "clinical evidence." Yet this is the same error made by all who eventually go astray from God's truth. We maintain that God has given us everything that we need to know about true spiritual warfare in the Word. Any addition from man is unnecessary and ultimately destructive.

 

[Cassidy]

Here's another one!! And some quotes as well.....

Power of suggestion

Counselor David Powlison writes:

“An atmosphere of intense expectation can produce almost anything. Counselors find what they are looking for; counselees produce what counselors are looking for. The ‘power of suggestion’ may sound like a cheap trick... . But suggestion is a force of vast and subtle power.”14
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So it is clear that a counselor usually finds—and can help create—what he is looking for. Suggestion goes a long way in creating the anticipated results.

John gives us great assurance when he says: “He who has been born of God keeps himself and the wicked one does not touch him” (1 John 5:18). The Greek word for touch is hapto. It means to fasten onto or to lay hold of. What Anderson says can happen, John is saying cannot happen.
No wonder John can say: “He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world” (1 John 4:4). Idols of the heart should be a great concern for us as Christians. Again we must attend to the things God prescribes and He will take care of the rest.

But Satan possesses a believer not in the sense of ownership, Anderson says, but in the sense of indwelling. After all, that is what the New Testament means when it speaks of demon possession (a demon inside a person). Anderson and Saucy say that demon possession is the same as saying a person is demonized (Greek: diamonizomai) which is the same as having a demon inside.21 They are right on that. Anderson and Saucy then teach that a believer can have a demon inside, and that a demon can occupy and control a believer’s body. Their view is that a believer can be internally demonized, that in fact the demon has moved in.

Scripture never suggests equating sin with demons. We are told to struggle against besetting sins (Hebrews 12) and we know that the flesh is ever with us. However there is no Scripture to ever suggest that demons can reside in a believer in the way that sin does. Sins are inclinations and actions; demons are fallen spirits. Scripture says a believer could possibly be controlled at times by the old nature but never by an indwelling demon.

http://www.pfo.org/wdemons.htm

 

[pinetree]

NO ONE CAN HAVE SOCKS! WHY? THEY AREN'T IN THE BIBLE! SO IF YOU HAVE A SOCK IN YOUR DRAWER PLEASE DISREGARD IT...IT ISN'T BIBLICAL!

Ya know what it is friend..

I am glad your on the forum,and Like I say,you share good stuff about grace...

But really it is a fair question to ask for scripture,to prove what you teach..

Is it not?

Now I never mess with peoples experience...and respect you subjective viewpoint..

But so far ,that is all this seems to be based on..

God is vast,and does all kind of things...I understand that..

In my op,I posted alot about who we are in Christ,and it is not saying Christians are inhabited!

See,what happens is you are making quite a claim ya know...

At least if you would say when teaching this,or if asked,you would say,that it is not found in the bible,that would be a fair thing to say..

Thank you.

 

[Cassidy]

The Power of Suggestion!!!!!!!

http://issuesetcarchive.org/issues_site/resource/journals/v2n2.htm

There is absolutely no biblical evidence to suggest that sanctification, the process whereby a Christian overcomes sin, is produced via the casting out of demons. Jimmy Swaggert, for example, had the demons of lust cast out of him by Oral Roberts, yet Swaggert fell into the same sin again. The witness of Scripture is clear - the source of besetting sins is the sinful nature, not demons. Never does the Apostle Paul in any of his Epistles which define the dynamic of the Christian life and experience encourage the casting out of demons as a necessary prelude for sanctification. Rather, he commands Christians to walk in the Spirit and to put to death the deeds of the sinful nature. (Galatians 5: 16ff.) In Romans 6, the power of baptism, not the self-proclaimed power of one engaged in a deliverance ministry, is the answer to the sins that plague Christians. In fact, in the sections of the New Testament that list the variety of ministries in the church (Romans 12; 1 Corinthians 12; Ephesians 4) there is no mention of a "deliverance ministry." Those who claim to be practicing such a ministry have no biblical support for their function.

Christians cannot be possessed by demons. If deliverance from demons was an issue for Christians, the Bible would clearly say so. In his Word, God has revealed to us all things that are necessary for life and salvation. The very fact that the Bible does not give precedent or teaching on the subject of casting demons out of Christians indicates that it was neither an issue nor a practice. To cite "clinical experience" as the authority is to reject Scripture as the only source, norm and judge of Christian teaching.

I arrived at the conclusion that either Scripture was wrong or my experience was wrong. But how could my experience be wrong? Solid, stable Christian people were exhibiting profound reactions when confronted with the ministry of deliverance. What was going on? Could they possibly being faking the reaction? If so, why?

I do not believe that the young man in question nor any of the others who had gone through our deliverance ministry were purposely seeking to deceive by playing a role or faking a response. The idea of being demon-possessed can be a frightful, traumatic thought. The young man, for example, had accepted the diagnosis that he was demonized. He knew from reading material or even from television how "the demonized" reacted when confronted with the deliverance ministry. He also knew, according to common deliverance ministry parlance, that demons became very agitated by any mention of the blood of Christ. He accepted the authority of those who were conducting the ministry toward him. He was not possessed by a demon, but rather by the idea of having a demon. He was victimized by suggestion. He simply acted as he believed he was supposed to act. He was "primed" for deliverance.

When Jesus and the Apostle Paul cast out demons, they were not having a clinical, counseling experience involving the diagnosis and treatment of those possessed. The Bible defines their experiences with demons as spontaneous, impromptu events. The Apostle Paul did not sit down with the young woman in Acts 16, advise her that he believed that her particular problem was caused by demon-possession, and proceed to bind and cast out the demon. It was a spontaneous event. The demons spontaneously reacted to Jesus and, for that matter, to the Apostle Paul. In Acts 19: 15, the demons responded to the sons of Sceva who were attempting to conduct a deliverance ministry, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?"
Let us assume, for example, as most deliverance ministry advocates do, that alcoholism is demonic in origin. If that is the case and our Lord Jesus entered a local pub where the town "drunks" hung out, he would receive an immediate, spontaneous reaction from the demonized alcoholics. The demons would know it was Jesus entering the pub. Would Dickason, Anderson, Wimber, Wagner, Kraft et. al. receive the same reaction if they invaded a local bar for the purpose of casting out the demons of alcohol? If they even mounted the bar and loudly issued their rebukes and commands, would the demonized alcoholics fall off their bar stools, scream and grovel on the floor, and vomit out the demon of alcohol? I seriously doubt it. I challenge them to try it and report their results.
But, if they would isolate a single alcoholic and put him into a counseling context in which he accepts the idea that his alcoholism is demonic in origin, is aware that the counselor is an authority figure who casts out demons, is "primed" for deliverance, and knows what kind of reaction is expected of him, the same commands and rebukes would probably cause a screaming, groveling, vomiting reaction. In fact, if the alcoholic remained within a supportive context, similar to the AA dynamic, he might even stop drinking. The question is, did they cast out a demon or program a reaction within a clinical context?

Secondly, we give the devil too much attention and begin to see demons behind every teapot. This is also a deception of the devil. The Christian who becomes obsessed with Satan and demons has taken his focus off the Word of God, the cross of Jesus Christ, and the victory that has been gained over the powers of hell. If we fall into the snare of focusing upon the devil, he will gladly provide us with our share of supernatural experiences and successful power-trips. As one wise man remarked in response to my former practice of binding demons before every worship and prayer gatherings, "When you focus upon demons, every demon in town comes around to get the attention." If we are willing to base truth upon experience rather than upon the objective Word of God, the devil is more than willing to provide confirming testimony.

 

[Elijah2]

Luke 10:19
I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you; “And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons (spirits); they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover” (Mark 16:17-18); “Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits (demons) are subject to you” (Luke 10:20); and “When an unclean spirit goes out (cast out) of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he comes, he finds it swept and put in order. Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first.” (Luke 11:24-26)

Now these verses don't speak about "experiences", but truthful FACTS.

So what point are you trying make?

The verses above are specific: "And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons (spirits); they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover”

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.

 

[Cassidy]

Again...none of these scriptures say anything about a spirit filled born again child of God having anything cast out!

 

[irenemcg]

I will say this I believe that Christians can and are often demonised to some level, some cases much worse than others, I believe also in generational curses etc, but sometimes we give too much credit to demons being behind things when it can be iChristians just getting into the old nature- the flesh, not everything should be ascribed to demons, but conversely we should not ignore them.

 

[Elijah2]

Again...none of these scriptures say anything about a spirit filled born again child of God having anything cast out!

No, that is so, because that word didn't come into being for many years after our Lord Jesus Christ ministry. They were referred to as "man"!

“Spirit-filled Christian” was NEVER USED in the KJV and the only time CHRISTIAN was used in the KJV are the following Scriptures.

A Bible search remarks said: “Sorry. No results found for "Spirit-filled Christian" in Keyword Search for KJV and NKJV.”

Acts 11:26
“And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.”

Acts 26:28
“Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.”


1 Peter 4:16
“Yet if any MAN suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.”

The above Scriptures also show “Christian” in the NKJV, and the following are shown as a “heading” of the following chapters.

Colossians 3:18
Rules for Christian Households

“ Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.”

1 Peter 4:12
Suffering for Being a Christian

“ Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you.”

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.

 

[Elijah2]

Over the past decades on occasions during a Sunday service, a member of a congregation, or on many occasions during a healing seminar members who have attended have manifested a demon or demons. In some cases they have let out a blood curdling shriek and collapsed just in front of the pulpit or were they were standing or sitting. On those occasions the minister leading the congregation or meeting had to make a split-second decision. On a number occasions I have had been in the same position.

In those occasions, the ministers had called upon the help from others, such as mature Christians, to help them to cast out the demon or demons (unclean, unholy, evil spirit or spirits) in Jesus’ Name. In my own experiences I had no other mature Christian to help. Those experiences of those incidents are probably the reason for them being involved into an intensive study of the ministry of our Lord Jesus Christ, and like myself brought me to the realisation that a Christian can be demonised.

In Mark 1:21-28 we discovered that a demon challenged our Lord Jesus Christ as HE was teaching in a synagogue in Galilee, and this encounter brought much attention to HIM immediately throughout Galilee. In those occasions of manifestations at Sunday services and healing seminar, and my own experiences we could see that HIS ministry was dealing with healings and demons, and wherever He encountered them, HE dealt with them in authority and power.

In Luke 13:32, our Lord Jesus Christ sent a message to Herod informing him that He would continue to “cast out demons and perform cures”, and HE passed that ministry onto His Disciples until His earthly task were completed. And that was the same for His Disciples as they passed that ministry onto those who followed the, until their earthly task were completed.

“And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.” (Mark 16:17-18)

Our Lord Jesus Christ’s ministry didn’t end there, because when HE commissioned His Disciples and followers, HE also transmitted HIS authority to them, and in turn they transmitted HIS authority to those who followed them, as they “taught them to observe all things that I have commanded you” (Matt. 28:20), “and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His Name” (Luke 24:47), “until you are endued with power” (Luke 24:49).

Our Lord Jesus Christ never sent anyone out to preach the Gospel without specifically instructing and equipping them to take action against demons in the same way that He Himself did.


All ministers of the healing and deliverance ministry can find no basis anywhere in the New Testament for an evangelistic ministry that does not include the casting out of demons, and for them to believe that a Christian cannot have demons. This is as true today as it was in our Lord Jesus Christ’s and His Disciples ministry.

Over the past few decades, ministers in the healing and deliverance ministry have experienced special opposition to this ministry through the influence from Satan, Satan’s forces, and Satan’s servants. Satan is the “angel of light”, he is the “father of lies”, he is a “creature of darkness”, and his activities seduce and deceive those Christians through false teaching and the “doctrine of demons”. Through Satan’s manipulation, seduction, and deception he ensures that the true nature of his activities are concealed.

If he can keep humanity unaware of his tactics, or even of his very existence, then he can use ignorance and fear to open the way for his destructive purposes through his forces and servants. We know that ignorance and fear isn’t confined to non-Christians, and has been working on the inside of most churches for the past three decades. Far too often these days, Christians have treated demons with superstitious dread, as if they are in the same category as ghosts or dragons, being a complete fabrication of fantasy. Corrie ten Boom commented that the fear of demons is from the demons themselves, and many fob “demonisation” off as non-Biblical.

Our Lord Jesus Christ approached HIS Ministry with extreme practicality in His dealings with demons. At the same time, He emphasized the unique significance of HIS ministry of casting out of demons: “But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you” (Matt. 12:28).

The casting out demons demonstrates two important spiritual truths by revealing the existence of two opposing spiritual kingdoms (the Kingdom of God/Light and the kingdom of Satan/Darkness); and demonstrating the victory of God’s Kingdom of light, over Satan’s kingdom of darkness.

Today, many try their hardest to ignore HIS Ministry, as many western Evangelists practice those beliefs that demons don’t exist, and Christians cannot be demonised, which isn’t New Testament evangelism. Many pray for the sick, and it’s unscriptural to pray for the sick if one is not prepared to also cast out demons. Our Lord Jesus Christ didn’t separate one from the other, as healing and deliverance came in as one.

But, as sad as it is, there are some in the healing and deliverance ministry, who carry out the practice of casting out demons to unscriptural extremes. They claim that any physical, emotional or spiritual problem is treated as demonic, which is unbalanced and unscriptural and unethical. At the same time, there are good, but proud men and women of God who give more prominence to their own ministry, instead of our Lord Jesus Christ’s ministry.

Over the past three decades, we have seen the evidence of Satan's special and intense opposition to the healing and deliverance ministry, by “seeking like a roaring lion to devour” any healing and deliverance ministry by excluding such ministry altogether from the ministry within most churches; and in failing that, Satan, his forces, and his servants will go all out in their aim is to discredit the ministry in all possible ways and means.

On most occasions, ministers and His Disciples didn’t volunteer for this ministry, but were lead there through confronting circumstances and situations in which we were forced to choose by the leading and guiding of the Holy Spirit: taking action against the demons; or backing down and giving way to them, as in the case of many who have done so. Looking back, like most in the healing and deliverance ministry they chose not to back down.

The primary motive and objective in God-anointed healing and deliverance ministry is to help Christians in the understanding and knowledge in the ways that they were helped in recognising the many struggling Christians who were under demonic influence and oppression, who endured the diverse degrees of torment and harassment that demons inflicted upon Christians, who didn’t know how to be set free from captivity. In some cases, the mental, emotional and physical torment is so severe that many Christians feel as though they are imprisoned and tortured, and through the non-demonisation belief of some Christians, they are unable to offer any hope and release from the bondage that those struggling Christians are experiencing.

Many Christians can identify with those who are struggling, as they matured they were also tormented and harassed by uncontrollable bouts of depression and many of them, including ministers were tempted to give up their Christian walk and ministry completely. But many of them, when confronted by Christians who needed help, and because of their doctrinal preconceptions and uncertainties, they finally resorted to helping those many Christians who were struggling from demonic influence and oppression by demons.

Many in the healing and deliverance ministry can look back over their ministry, and find that hardly anytime goes by that they are involved in helping a Christian to be healed, and in need of deliverance from demons. Even though the ministry has provoked misunderstanding and criticism from other Christians, but this is far outweighed by the satisfaction of helping those desperate, struggling Christians.

How many times we can hear ministry team members share of people who approach them saying that they were demonised and claimed that there was no hope for them, then they met up with the minister or were given their ministry tapes on healing and deliverance, and they claimed that they were set free from captivity, as a great shadow lifted off them as if they had been confined to a wheelchair or bed for their early life as a Christian. Testimonies like this are many, and ministry team members never backed down before criticism and opposition of this vital ministry.

Our personal experience over the years of ministry and through the many “signs and wonders” has reinforced our confidence in the accuracy of Scripture; even thought there are many Liberal theologians often suggest that demonic activity isn’t to be taken literally, which is no more than superstitious ignorance.

There are many Christians who have experienced and witnessed demonic manifestations that are exactly in line with the descriptions in Scripture.

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.