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Please I dont understand this

Which points do you agree with? (Thank you)

  • Only agee with point 1

  • Only agree with point 2

  • Only agree with point 3

  • Only agree with point 1,2

  • Only agree with point 2,3

  • Only agree with point 1,2,3

  • Agree with all


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qbit

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I am sorry I woke up the other morning and immediately I had this question it almost came from nowhere, I am now stuck and I don’t know what choice to make? The replies to the last thread I posted, most didn't really help me understand. I have tried to make this clearer so can you please tell me in the poll which points you agree with and which ones you don’t and where I am wrong? Thanks

Point 1 God is a fair God all people are equaly special to him none are more valuble. There are millions of people who have never had the chance to hear about God beacause they were not lucky like me to be born in the right counrty at the right time in the histry of the world. Because God is fair these people who have never heard the good news of Christ's sacrifice for us, must have an equally fair chance of going to heaven beacuse God would not condemn a person to Hell for what they didn't know. If you were born to Hindu parents your chance of going to heaven can not be reduced because God is equally fair to people no matter which country they are from.


Point 2 Mk 16:15-16: "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned."

So its my duty as a Christian to help sow the seed to nonbelievers about Christ's sacrifice for us all. When a person hears Gods word and understands the message of Christ's Sacrifice he makes a decision; if he will believe in Christ or not. If he believes on Christ he will be saved if he does not believe he will be condemned for disbelief. When we tell a person about Christs Sacrifice he must make a critical life transforming decision; reject what God has offered or accept what God has offered. Receive the Blessings offered by Christ or the consequences. I am to be Gods helper in sowing the seeds in both the good and bad soil.


Point 3 I know from experiance that it is much easyer to change the life of a young person then it is to change the life of an older person and the probability that a person over a certain age accepts a new faith is very low. Changing a Muslim person or a Jew is very very very hard especially if they are an older person. Because God is fair, and he loves us all equally, a Soul that has never had the chance to here about Christ, like the Souls in the nonchristian countries, must have the same chance as I, if they have never had the fortunate chance to here Gods word. God is fair to all people he does not favor people who happen to be born in one counrty over another. Yet the chances are very low that he will make a life changing decision when he hears the gospel, the chances are very low that he will be baptized these decisions are very very hard to make they often require a lot of sacrifice. So the chances are more likely that he will be condemned for not believeing (Mk 16:15-16).

Point 4 A Christian should love his neighbour as himself; the ultimate example is Christ who laid down his life for us. It's my Christian Duty to spread this Good News to all the world. So in many cases we should not pass the Christian message on because the message could force a friend to make a critical decision that is likely to condemn him, as he must act on what he knows. His chances for Heaven are better if he does not have to make this criticaly decision because God is equaly fair no matter what country I am from. I know I love my neighbour I have muslim friends at school, I want as many peopple as possible to go to heaven so I will not tell people about the Bible because I love them and I don’t want them to have to make a decision that is most likely to condmn them. I would rather go to Hell myself then risk sending a friend to Hell by giving him or leaving him information that is statistically likely to lead him to make a decision that is very very hard for them to make. If I give a gun to a person and I think he might do something bad with it, it is partly my responsibility, I should not have given him the gun, or left it in his letter box or left it in a place that might tempt him to take it. My actions influence how other people act and if I am influencing them in a bad way I should not do that. Mk 16:15-16 says I should send out information about my faith to the world but this influence I am sending out is likely to hurt and condemn them and I don't want that because I love them! If a person could have been saved by not hearing or seeing my influence, such as a Hindu and hearing forces people to make a choice that is more likely to be the wrong choice, then hearing is bad for them. I can choose to stop people from hearing and it may help them. So I will sacrifice my own salvation because I love them! Christ gave us the ultimate self-sacrificing example of true love.



God loves us he gave us the free choice to choose and question right and wrong so that we are not robots and are forced to obey commands we are blind to. But I hate this, I wish he did not give me a mind to think it limits my faith and now I wont go to heaven because I wont share the gospel to the world and there may be no truly self-sacrificing Christians in Heaven.

Is this true, I am stuck?
 

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You give the "good news", but you don't do any judging. Only God gives the increase. You have to trust in God's love and ability to be just. It isn't in the nature of man or the world would not be letting 20 to 30 thousand starve to death, daily - man's legacy and responsibility after rejecting God's provision.

1 Corinthians 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
 
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Yitzchak

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I am not sure whether I completely understand your question. But I will try to answer what I understand of your question.

On the question of sharing our faith. It matters how and when we share our faith. We can effect people for the bad as well as for the good. Since there is much advantage in knowing Christ, those of us who know Him become responsible for sharing this blessing with the world. So it becomes very important that we be a good witness and not a bad witness for Christ. There are many ways to witness for Christ. We are not responsible for others decisions but we are responsible for doing our best to make good use of the blessing in our life of Christ and to share it with others the best we can.

On the issue of God's fairness. One can make a case for God making allowances for ignorance at leats to a certain extent. but no matter how many allowances are made, it is still better to know Christ.
 
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1: ???

2: No, your duty to God is to follow His unique will for your unique life regardles of what other do or say you should do. Are we all feet? Are we all hands ?

3: God transformed Saul into Paul. And by our perceptions, Paul was probably the hardest to convert. Paul even states that himself.

4: If you share the gospel with someone and they reject it and die and go to hell. It is not because you shared the gospel. It's because THEY chose not to believe it.
And if you didn't share it with them in the first place and they died, they would still go to hell. It has nothing to do with you.

That's like saying I won't tell my friend about the poisonous snake in the tree, because when he climbs it and gets bitten and dies it will be my fault.
If you don't tell him and he is bitten and dies, it's his responsibility for not being aware.
If you tell him and he still gets bitten and dies, that's his responsibility for not heeding your warning.

People die around us daily, it is not our duty to save them all.
This is God's duty. Our duty is to follow God, to be led by Him, because He has a particular duty for each and every one of us. This way we are not overwhelmed by the enormity of the harvest.

It is God who saves people not you
 
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