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I received deliverance from sexual sins at church on Sunday. I truly believe I was delivered. However, Satan still keeps tempting me with homosexual thoughts. I am not a homosexual but a bisexual. I want to be totally free from these thoughts. What should I do?
 
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If you take time to read through the many posts on this website about
sexual sin you will see that it is not something that goes away overnight. Deliverance stuff can be helpful but not always biblical. IN the Bible people had demons cast of them, in that sense they were delivered. But what about Christians. In reality the Apostle Paul spoke about it a lot. He talked about the sin he does and how he hates it. Homosexuality is a sin like everything else, man elevates it not God. My encouragement to you is that you read 1 cor 10:13. Your not alone in the battle and God is faithful. For those who have been practicing homosexuals the work of becoming straight is a God thing but also something you have to work at. I dont know how deep you have gone. My suggestion is that you go to settingcaptivesfree.com. They have a course that goes for 90 days and gets you in the word and out of homosexuality. I would encourage you to do that if your serious about this.
 
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What do you mean when you use the words "deliverance" and "delivered"? It obviously does not mean freedom from homosexual thoughts or temptations since you said the devil keeps tempting me with homosexual thoughts. So what do you mean when you say your got deliverance?
 
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On any issue that Satan wants to tell you a lie. Tell him to leave in the name of Jesus. I like to remind him of his future. Getting connected with someone who has been in a simular life circumstance also helps. Check out a local Exodus chapter in your area for support.
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You can be delivered from a sexual bondage, but you will always have a normal sexual nature to deal with. You must recognise that.

Bisexual? Probably you just have a very strong sex drive.

You may need some healthy teaching about sexuality too. Quite a few sexual issues that pretty normal young people face often originate in some unhealthy, inadequate or unrealistic information. That can be really unhelpful in getting sexual issues sorted properly.

I will respond to any PM if you have any specific issues you might want to toss around.

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As for how far I have gone, I have never had a sexual encounter with any person of the same sex.

That may be a good thing... since it sounds to me like you're only thinking about these things.

I might suggest talking to your pastor one-on-one... he may be able to help.

Good luck!
 
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It's really hard if you're not in a relationship. You don't have to try to go find a man right now, but you might consider doing some dating. If you have attraction to both sexes, hanging out with the opposite sex might help with suppressing the homosexual thoughts.

I consider myself to be straight, but I am a lot closer to the center of the straight/gay continuum than most people. Since I've gotten married, homosexual thoughts are virtually nil, as I have a sex object to focus on.

I'm not suggesting that you have to go out and find a husband. However, dating might provide some stimulus on the straight side of your personality that helps to suppress the gay side. Who knows? You might just find the man God intends for you in the process.
 
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If you have only thought about it, it may be an issue of fantasy only and not actually of sexuality. And it very well could just be a phase as I think a lot of people do wonder what it would be like without actually wanting to do it. Fantasies (I'm not talking about simply sexual thoughts but any sort of fantasy) can be a healthy way for our minds to deal with something that we don't know how to actually deal with out in the "real world." It doesn't have to mean you actually want to do it or you would if given the chance. For some it is simply a way of working something out mentally.

However I have noticed that sometimes when I want to stop thinking about something it easily becomes the only thing I can think about. But when you find yourself having those thoughts, take notice of how they got started, what triggered them and how it makes you feel. Noticing those things are going to be the clues you need to help stopping the thoughts if that is what you are trying to do.
 
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I too struggled for a good 25 years with the whole gay issue. I was worship leader for many years in our local church and at the same time I was also married for 10 years. Then at some point in my life I was also called to flow in the prophetic office. How was all this to happen when I knew I was gay?

Well, I spent the nights in prayer before God asking for His mercy and deliverance. In the end I had to learn that God did not approve of the fact that I was living a lie and my walk with God would not suffer. My spiritual growth was being restricted because of this.

Then one day I confessed to my wife I was gay and even though we were divorced, we stayed best friends to this day. I had to find out what God says about this because I knew what the church teaches. This is what I discovered.

The Eunuchs
I found that Jesus makes the following statement about Eunuchs:

Mat 19:11 But He said to them, Not all receive this word, except those to whom it is given.
Mat
19:12 For there are some eunuchs who were born so from their mother's womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of Heaven's sake. He who is able to receive it, let him receive it.
The mere fact that men can be born in a certain way, makes it clear that there is something genetic about this. For the first time I knew I was born this way, where some hardcore preachers insist that this was a choice.
I also found that Daniel, the prophet, had a eunuch friend.


Dan 1:9 Now God had brought Daniel into favour and tender love with the prince of the eunuchs.

This friend, Melzar, had a tender love for Daniel. This was the best translation for such a sensitive situation. The fact was indeed that Melzar had a serious crush on Daniel. Melzar was the eunuch in charge of the other eunuchs. But the original Hebrew for this Tender Love was translated from the Hebrew word “Racham” which means intense or from the womb. I remember being in love with someone. Being absent from this person produced a very intense pain over my body especially in my heart, chest and belly. This was the love Melzar felt for Daniel, indicating he was gay.

So I learned from a prophetic point of view that eunuchs in the Bible has always been around. They were a prophetic type and shadow of the gay communities of the world today. They speak of those who cannot engage in a heterosexual relationship, whatever the reason may be.

Here is what God say about the gay communities of the world:


Isa 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose [the things] that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices [shall be] accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
Isa 56:8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather [others] to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.

Wow! We are saved! God left a back door open for us! Thank heavens for God’s awesome grace
The Roman Centurion
The second miracle Jesus performed was the healing of the servant of the Roman Centurion.

Mat 8:5 And when Jesus was entered into Capernaum, there came unto him a centurion, beseeching him,
Mat 8:6 And saying, Lord, my servant lieth at home sick of the palsy, grievously tormented.
Mat 8:7 And Jesus saith unto him, I will come and heal him.
Mat 8:8 The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.
Mat 8:9 For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this [man], Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth [it].
Mat 8:10 When Jesus heard [it], he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

Sadly, the KJV translators were homophobic and did not translate this correctly. The original Greek word used here was “pais”. This word was incorrectly translated as servant. In order to understand what this pais was, one must understand that in ancient Greek and later Roman culture an older man would take on a younger man to train in love and war. They would develop a strong love relationship, which included sex. An example of this was Achilles and Patroklos in Greek young lover of the centurion history.

Jesus knew this and yet He commended the faith of the centurion. There was no hatred or judgement of the centurion’s lover.


The quote from Leviticus
Lev 18:22 You shall not lie with mankind as with womankind. It is abomination to God.
We have all heard this one! It is such a clichéd quote. But the rest of this chapter is totally forgotten. The rest of it does not even exist! And I need to make a really serious point here. Lev 18 is a whole chapter with 30 verses. There is a theme here which is consistent. God has a problem with idolatry. He warns Moses to tell the children of Israel not to do what the inhabitants of the land do. They follow after other gods, and the sacrifices they offer included their own children. Sometimes men would have sex with the priest of the temple as a sacrificial ritual. God has a problem with gay sex in this context. This is the bigger picture and central theme of this chapter. But because of narrow-mindedness this point is totally overlooked.

I feel that I have made my point. There are other scriptures and there are books written that deal with these in detail. Such a book was “Openly Christian, Openly Gay” written by Rev Samuel Kader from
Dayton, Ohio in the USA. I recommend this book to those who want to investigate the issue further.

This was enough for me. I knew God was OK with me and that was good enough for me.
 
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