Please Help Me!!!

[alec]

I am searching for the outer appearance of Christ. How was his hair, his eyes, his height, his everything. I will use these in a magazine published in Turkey. So I need the sources of these information.
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[Bradford]

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[Oblio]

May I suggest you visit The church of The Holy Savior in Chora (Kariye Camii) for iconography of Christ and events in His life and ministry

Orthodox Christians see iconography as not only portraying spiritual truths, but to a certain extent also the physical. Perhaps if you are in Turkie, you can visit the referenced church (museum) to see first hand the Byzantine iconography that portrays Christ.

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[Edial]

I am searching for the outer appearance of Christ. How was his hair, his eyes, his height, his everything. I will use these in a magazine published in Turkey. So I need the sources of these information.
Can you help me please? [E-Mail removed by moderator]

If you are looking for a Biblical description of the Christ I would recommend the movie "The Passion of Christ". It is surprisingly accurate in that area.

Also a side note, according to the Talmud the Christ would be a tall strong man with blue eyes. Since many Pharisees were looking to accuse Jesus for not being the Christ no one accused him that he does not fit the Talmudic description of the Messiah.
Thanks,
Ed

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

May I suggest you visit The church of The Holy Savior in Chora (Kariye Camii) for iconography of Christ and events in His life and ministry

Orthodox Christians see iconography as not only portraying spiritual truths, but to a certain extent also the physical. Perhaps if you are in Turkie, you can visit the referenced church (museum) to see first hand the Byzantine iconography that portrays Christ.

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[Bluemoon]

Does it say somewhere in the Bible how Christ looked liked?

 

[Dmckay]

The closest thing you are going to find to a description of Jesus is Isaiah 53:1-6.
There are no known extant images of Jesus, not descriptions. Even the much vaunted Shroud of Turin when it first appeared on the scene was reported and accepted as an artwork more than a thousand years after the time of Christ. God, know man's nature to worship objects rather than the creator has made sure that there are no images of Jesus and no original manuscripts of the Bible around to be venerated.

 

[Blessed-one]

just remember that Jesus was born a JEW!!!!!!

then you'll be able to figure out his height and skin colour.

 

[Oblio]

There are no known extant images of Jesus, not descriptions.

The Holy Apostle Luke wrote the first Icon of our Lord. We trust the images passed down of other historical figures (e.g. the Greek philosopers et. al.), why would we not trust the renderings of Christ ?

 

[pcwilkins]

Does it say somewhere in the Bible how Christ looked liked?

Yes. Isaiah 53v2: "he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him"

Apart from that, your guess is as good as mine. In the end, it doesn't matter.

Peter

 

[Dmckay]

The Holy Apostle Luke wrote the first Icon of our Lord. We trust the images passed down of other historical figures (e.g. the Greek philosopers et. al.), why would we not trust the renderings of Christ ?

I can't and wouldn't presume to speak for you, but for myself. Luke was a Greek physician and historian. We have no reason to believe that he ever even saw Jesus. If he actually did draw a representation of Jesus it would have had to have been done by descriptions given to him by others. Luke worked and traveled with Paul, does this icon you speak of reflect the description of Paul of the Jesus Paul met on the road to Damascus? Because Scripture doesn't relate what Paul saw other than a blinding light.

Secondly, most of the images that have been created of Jesus do not reflect the image of a Jewish man according to the customs of Jesus' people in His day. Namely, clean shaven and short hair. Salman's portrait of Christ even has Him blue-eyed, which is highly unlikely.

Unless you know for sure that these images you speak of trusting were done from artists working with the subject sitting for them to actually produce an image for posterity, why would you trust them? My son is in law enforcement, and one of the things that they were taught very early is that the descriptions given by most witnesses are notoriously inaccurate.

 

[Oblio]

Unless you know for sure that these images you speak of trusting were done from artists working with the subject sitting for them to actually produce an image for posterity, why would you trust them?

This is what the Church tells us, just as she tells us who wrote the Gospels and what books are contained in the Bible.

 

[Reformationist]

May I suggest you visit The church of The Holy Savior in Chora (Kariye Camii) for iconography of Christ and events in His life and ministry

Orthodox Christians see iconography as not only portraying spiritual truths, but to a certain extent also the physical. Perhaps if you are in Turkie, you can visit the referenced church (museum) to see first hand the Byzantine iconography that portrays Christ.

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Ummm...just so I'm clear, is this supposed to be an accurate rendering of Jesus according to your denomination?

Thanks,
God bless

 

[TheMainException]

I know that his parents took the Nazerene vow and never cut his hair

 

[~SHINE~]

He was a carpenter, so chances are He was in shape and pretty well-built.

 

[Dmckay]

I know that his parents took the Nazerene vow and never cut his hair

It is the vow of the Nazarite, and that vow forbid the drinking of wine, which Jesus did repeatedly in Scripture. You are confusing Nazarite with Nazareth the town in which Jesus was raised.

 

[Asar'el]

If you believe (as I do) that the Holy Bible is perfect, then it should be obvious that we are not to focus on the phyisical appearance of Jesus Christ; but for those interested, a depiction of Him in glory can be found in the following verses from Revelation:

And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

This is Him that the elect expect to see when they arrive home...

 

[Bluemoon]

just remember that Jesus was born a JEW!!!!!!

then you'll be able to figure out his height and skin colour.

Not necessarily true, I'm blonde and white skin, no one would ever know I was a full blooded Puerto Rican.

 

[Asar'el]

Not necessarily true, I'm blonde and white skin, no one would ever know I was a full blooded Puerto Rican.

There is a good likelihood that His features were typical to the people He came from; however, as it is not recorded in Scripture what He looked like on Earth, I believe it is at best pointless to try and somehow come up with a physical description of Him, and at worst, dangerous...

 

[Bluemoon]

and at worst, dangerous...

Couldn't agree with you more