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Please help me, I need it.
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Are you able to get to a Catholic Church during the week? If so- go and sit before the tabernacle or find out when Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament will be exposed for Adoration---- go for one hour a week and just sit and talk to Him. Sit and pray for guidance. Sit and listen. Sit and read your Bible. Go to the Source!! HE will direct you-- without a doubt!!
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The Bible tells us that if we receive communion without discerning Christ that we bring damnation upon ourselves.... can't you just tell them that you felt led by the Spirit NOT to receive tonight? That seems entirely truthful, AND respectful of their beliefs.
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I think Shannon and Aaron=Aggie have answered well here.ATShavuot said:
Also maybe you coudl pick up a copy of Dr Scott Hahn's book "Rome Sweet Home" Dr Hahn is a former Protestant minister, who converted to Catholicism over a long period of time. His story is very interesting and helpful.
I myself am a cradle Catholic. I stopped practicing my faith for several years but came back after reading a lot of books on the faith, on Judaism and after picking up my Bible and reading it everyday for months. I didn't come back to the Church because someone told me to. I just was pulled that way, back to the fold. I think it was the Holy Spirit. It came gradually to me, not a whack on the head, in a dream or by force. I believe that I prayed my first prayers in years and they were answered by the Holy Spirit in a most unique way, but the key is to listen and follow the Spirit.
Praise be God for the path I took. I am now happily married in the Church and feel I am where I was meant to be.
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In the Pentecostal faith tradition, what is believed by the action of taking Communion? Do you believe Jesus is in the matter presented there? Do you believe it is symbolic? And what happens if you resist taking communion? Are you shunned by your family and church congregation?ATShavuot said:
I am just curious.
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As a CAtholic I can only answer "yes" to that.... however, I would say that you still are in a position where you must submit to the authority of your parents. Of course I don't understand how communion under any belief system would have any meaning if it were mandatory for all....ATShavuot said:
Pray to the Holy Spirit for guidnace!
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This sounds like a tough dilema and I just wanted to say that I'll pray for you. I'm so sorry that you are in this sort of 'no mans land'. I know the feeling and it doesn't feel good at all, but one thing that I've learned, is that moments like these are when we grow in the Lord. It's difficult now, but later on you will be able to look back and see how this struggle has made you grow more.
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It is what it is.
1 Corinthians 11
27Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.
Just my take but this scripture is referring to the true body and blood of Christ which is found within the Catholic Church. This is not in reference to a false or symbolic communion; there can be no condemnation by the Church of those outside the Church practicing outside of the Church. We desire that all would come to know the true depth and grace within the true sacraments. Just as we can not hold unbelievers to our beliefs, we can not hold non-Catholics to Catholic doctrine.
I would suggest that the practice of receiving communion in a protestant environment will never again be fulfilling for you. You are no longer under a false supposition that it is a biblical practice. If you pray and find that you can refrain from communion tonight that will probably give your soul the most peace, however if after prayer, you are convicted that it would be dishonoring to your parents and conflictual then receive and let God bring you peace in the situation. God is not a God of chaos and trouble. He has your heart in His hand and He knows that your journey to the Catholic Church will take time. Be at peace. Draw on His mercy and you will attain what you desire, the true Eucharist, in His time.
Pray and we will pray with you.
27Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.
Just my take but this scripture is referring to the true body and blood of Christ which is found within the Catholic Church. This is not in reference to a false or symbolic communion; there can be no condemnation by the Church of those outside the Church practicing outside of the Church. We desire that all would come to know the true depth and grace within the true sacraments. Just as we can not hold unbelievers to our beliefs, we can not hold non-Catholics to Catholic doctrine.
I would suggest that the practice of receiving communion in a protestant environment will never again be fulfilling for you. You are no longer under a false supposition that it is a biblical practice. If you pray and find that you can refrain from communion tonight that will probably give your soul the most peace, however if after prayer, you are convicted that it would be dishonoring to your parents and conflictual then receive and let God bring you peace in the situation. God is not a God of chaos and trouble. He has your heart in His hand and He knows that your journey to the Catholic Church will take time. Be at peace. Draw on His mercy and you will attain what you desire, the true Eucharist, in His time.
Pray and we will pray with you.
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Brother Charlie said:AtShavout, I will add your problem to my prayer intentions
Charlie, you must know that being on OBOB lengthens your intercessions a great deal.
But there is no greater work than lifting up each other in prayer.
Cat59 said:
ATShavout, I have taken the liberty of adding your intention to our continuing Prayer thread on OBOB.
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...Wait, mandatory communion?
Er.
Wow.
I dunno. I'd probably treat it as the people there treat it; it's a reminder of a real thing. That you might later do the real thing, and they might decide not to, doesn't change the intent of the ceremony. And it's not necessarily a bad ceremony in and of itself...
(Er, not trying to debate here, just trying to offer a suggestion.) (Do I still need these disclaimers?)
Er.
Wow.
I dunno. I'd probably treat it as the people there treat it; it's a reminder of a real thing. That you might later do the real thing, and they might decide not to, doesn't change the intent of the ceremony. And it's not necessarily a bad ceremony in and of itself...
(Er, not trying to debate here, just trying to offer a suggestion.) (Do I still need these disclaimers?)
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