Planned Parenthood is EVIL!

[Bella Vita]

BREAKING NEWS: Planned Parenthood President: My Children's Lives Began at Delivery, Not Conception

Planned Parenthood President: My Childrens' Lives Began at Delivery, Not Conception | LifeNews.com

Planned Parenthood's President says her children where not alive until the moment they where born! Does she really believe the stupidity that comes out of her one mouth?

So if a child is not alive until birth tell me again why do we have laws against drinking and doing drugs while you are pregnant? Why do we encourage women to take prenatal vitamins and have prenatal care? Why would a women worry about care about and love the human inside her for 9 months if it was not alive?

Dead tissue does not grow and a heart beat begins at 5 weeks! Life begins at conception science proves it ultrasound proves it. PP can't make up their mind one minute it is a baby next minute it isn't. Saying a baby is not alive until it is born is just insane! I feel sorry for her children that she did not see them as her babies until they were born!

 

[98cwitr]

While Im not a fan of abortion and wouldnt encourage (now, @ my current maturity level and spiritual state of being) a woman to seek an abortion, I do think that birth control is okay for at a minimum the regulation of menstrual cycles. jm2c.

 

[Bella Vita]

While Im not a fan of abortion and wouldnt encourage (now, @ my current maturity level and spiritual state of being) a woman to seek an abortion, I do think that birth control is okay for at a minimum the regulation of menstrual cycles. jm2c.

I have no issue with birth control. I have issue with them saying a baby is not alive until it is born!

 

[Rev55]

I have no issue with birth control. I have issue with them saying a baby is not alive until it is born!

reading some info shows that birth control does two things to prevent preganecy.

1. stops the sperm from reaching the egg

2. if the sperm hits the egg it stops it from attaching to the wall so no baby can develop.

Now in the case of number 2 I ask does a sperm and egg make life upon meeting or upon attaching to the uterus. if its just upon contact then birth control kills babies also but you would never know because pregnancy doesn't start until the egg attaches. just something im curious about, what are your views on this?

 

[Bella Vita]

reading some info shows that birth control does two things to prevent preganecy.

1. stops the sperm from reaching the egg

2. if the sperm hits the egg it stops it from attaching to the wall so no baby can develop.

Now in the case of number 2 I ask does a sperm and egg make life upon meeting or upon attaching to the uterus. if its just upon contact then birth control kills babies also but you would never know because pregnancy doesn't start until the egg attaches. just something im curious about, what are your views on this?

That are certain forms of BC I am against. The pill I believe is the safest as far as not hurting life. The pill stops a women from ovulating so that an egg and sperm never meet. I believe life starts when egg and sperm meet. Forms of BC that allow ovulation and fertilization to happen, but do not allow implantation to happen I am against. I personally do not use any hormonal BC because I got tired of putting those chemicals in my body they are really dangerous. So I chart my cycles and now use natural family planning instead.

 

[Bluelion]

The soul does not enter the body until 8 days after birth. This is why circumcision is to be done on the 8 day after birth. I use to use this to say a woman has the right to chose, however, you can not deny the destroying of the vessel. After I heard a doctor talk about what he actually did when he gave abortions that was enough for me, I just say no now.

 

[Bella Vita]

The soul does not enter the body until 8 days after birth. This is why circumcision is to be done on the 8 day after birth. I use to use this to say a woman has the right to chose, however, you can not deny the destroying of the vessel. After I heard a doctor talk about what he actually did when he gave abortions that was enough for me, I just say no now.

Is there scripture that shows this because I disagree. John flipped and kicked in Elizabeths stomach feeling the holy spirit when Mary walked in the room pregnant with Jesus. Mary was 3 months pregnant and Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant. So if John could feel the holy spirit in the present of Jesus at 6 months gestation I would say he had a soul.

 

[Hammster]

The soul does not enter the body until 8 days after birth. This is why circumcision is to be done on the 8 day after birth. I use to use this to say a woman has the right to chose, however, you can not deny the destroying of the vessel. After I heard a doctor talk about what he actually did when he gave abortions that was enough for me, I just say no now.

That could be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

 

[Wearecommandedtojudge]

The soul does not enter the body until 8 days after birth. This is why circumcision is to be done on the 8 day after birth. I use to use this to say a woman has the right to chose, however, you can not deny the destroying of the vessel. After I heard a doctor talk about what he actually did when he gave abortions that was enough for me, I just say no now.

This is in contradiction to scripture. The soul does not enter the body until 8 days after birth? Chapter and verse please? I know from scripture that unborn children have souls.

The blood clotting factor is the highest on the 8th day making it the safest time to circumcise and providing yet another scientific proof among many many many others that the Bible is indeed the word of God and that God exists.

Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. Medical researchers found that two different blood clotting factors, Vitamin K and Prothrombin, are at the highest levels of your life (110% of normal) on the eighth day of life. fact, Vitamin K is not even resident in the baby’s system until a few days after he is born. Vitamin K begins to be manufactured by bacteria in the intestinal tract heavily from days 5 thru 7 of life. Vitamin K in turn is taken by the liver to produce Prothrombin.

You would not believe how many things like this you can find in scripture. The Bible outright saying things we have only discovered are scientifically accurate in the last few decades.

 

[Wearecommandedtojudge]

Is there scripture that shows this because I disagree. John flipped and kicked in Elizabeths stomach feeling the holy spirit when Mary walked in the room pregnant with Jesus. Mary was 3 months pregnant and Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant. So if John could feel the holy spirit in the present of Jesus at 6 months gestation I would say he had a soul.

Not to mention that if Jesus was present to have a presence for John to feel at 3 months.....

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

as to when life starts, the Scripture says Yhwh gives the Life - it doesn't say Life starts when egg gets sperm nor other physical happening(not apart from Yhwh anyhow) - i.e. physically everything could happen just the same, but if Yhwh doesn't give Life, then there is no Life.

 

[Wearecommandedtojudge]

as to when life starts, the Scripture says Yhwh gives the Life - it doesn't say Life starts when egg gets sperm nor other physical happening(not apart from Yhwh anyhow) - i.e. physically everything could happen just the same, but if Yhwh doesn't give Life, then there is no Life.

Life begins at conception. This is a scientific fact. The definition of a person is a living human.

 

[Bella Vita]

as to when life starts, the Scripture says Yhwh gives the Life - it doesn't say Life starts when egg gets sperm nor other physical happening(not apart from Yhwh anyhow) - i.e. physically everything could happen just the same, but if Yhwh doesn't give Life, then there is no Life.

This is really simple it's called science.

God who created all life created us to have egg and sperm when those two meet the genetic blueprint or DNA for life is 100% there. It just needs time and love to grow but that child is absolutely alive.

 

[Wearecommandedtojudge]

This is really simple it's called science.

God who created all life created us to have egg and sperm when those two meet the genetic blueprint or DNA for life is 100% there. It just needs time and love to grow but that child is absolutely alive.

Since it is growing we can prove it is alive. At conception the child has the same genetic code it will have for the rest of his or her life. A different code then the father or mother. This child is not part of the mothers body. Life begins at conception!

If he or she is not human, what is he/she? A whale? A platypus? It is human from conception.

The definition of a person is a living human being.

As Section 1 of the 14th amendment of the US Constitution grants equal protection of the law to ALL PERSONS and The Constitution is by Law higher then Federal, State, County, or City Law, or any Court Decision (such as Dred/Scott where black people where declared non persons) for that matter, killing unborn children is murder under US Law and should by LAW be prosecuted as such according to the Law.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive ANY PERSON of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to ANY PERSON within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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[Bella Vita]

Since it is growing we can prove it is alive. At conception the child has the same genetic code it will have for the rest of his or her life. A different code then the father or mother. This child is not part of the mothers body. Life begins at conception!

If he or she is not human, what is he/she? A whale? A platypus? It is human from conception.

The definition of a person is a living human being.

As Section 1 of the 14th amendment of the US Constitution grants equal protection of the law to ALL PERSONS and The Constitution is by Law higher then Federal, State, County, or City Law, or any Court Decision (such as Dred/Scott where black people where declared non persons) for that matter, killing unborn children is murder under US Law and should by LAW be prosecuted as such according to the Law.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive ANY PERSON of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to ANY PERSON within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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I absolutely think that brain activity and a heartbeat at 5 weeks proves it is alive. I have seen a soon of a 13 week old little boy sucking his thumb! If that is not alive I don't know what is.

 

[Bluelion]

That could be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

That is what is taught in Jewish circles, however dumb you think it is.

Also I think it is dumb to call something dumb because you have never heard of it. I believe it is in the Zohar, while it maybe untrue, It is wise to understand what people believe and why before you go calling there believes dumb.

 

[Bluelion]

Is there scripture that shows this because I disagree. John flipped and kicked in Elizabeths stomach feeling the holy spirit when Mary walked in the room pregnant with Jesus. Mary was 3 months pregnant and Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant. So if John could feel the holy spirit in the present of Jesus at 6 months gestation I would say he had a soul.

The Bible says on the 8 day it is to be done. It is taught in Jewish circles that the reason why is because the soul does not enter the body until then. Not sure if the Bible really says this, but I believe it is in the talmud or zohar.

 

[Wearecommandedtojudge]

That is what is taught in Jewish circles, however dumb you think it is.
I believe it is in the Zohar,.

And you don't MESS WITH THE ZOHAN!

Seriously though...KABALA? (I know I didn't spell that right) Why would you believe a teaching of Kabala?

 

[Wearecommandedtojudge]

Not sure if the Bible really says this, but I believe it is in the talmud or zohar.

Do you know what the Talmud says about Jesus? That his mother was a harlot and he was the bastard son of Miriam and a Roman soldier Pantera , that he was a magician, a deceiver and as a teacher of apostasy, and that he is now currently in hell being boiled in feces. I don't even want to go into what Kabala teaches. To weird.

Those who believe the blasphemous and heretical Talmud believe a lot of lies and heretical things but Kabala is like the lunatic fringe of Judaism. Messianic Judaism is the only form that has it right although I hear Karaite Jews believe only in the Tanakh (Old Testament) and do not believe the Mishnah. I think since they do not believe the Mishnah perhaps they regard the Talmud as hogwash. Don't know. (The Mishnah is supposedly an oral law that some Jews believe God gave Moses at Mt Sinai orally and has been passed down via word of mouth through Jewish Rabbis, it is the first part of the Talmud and is hogwash)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaite_Judaism

Maybe you should site the blasphemous and manipulative "Toledot Yeshu" next. Or maybe not.

 

[Bella Vita]

The Bible says on the 8 day it is to be done. It is taught in Jewish circles that the reason why is because the soul does not enter the body until then. Not sure if the Bible really says this, but I believe it is in the talmud or zohar.

Like I said I disagree I am not jewish so I acknowledge the NT. And so I believe there is scripture that shows us there is a soul in a baby in the womb long before birth.