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Piltdown Man was an elaborate hoax that was not discovered for nearly half a century. Does this obvious fraud cast a long shadow and how fossils are handled and interpruted in the search for human ancestors? I'm convinced that every time there is a fossil discoverd in central or southern Africa it is autamatically assumed to be a human ancestor. I submit that the presumption of a common ancestor for men and apes is deeply flawed. There are a number of reasons I came to this conclusion, not the least of which is the lack of a genetic mechanism accounting for the size and complexity of the human brain.
All the evidence is supposed to point to a common ancestor for men and apes. Lets talk about all of this supposed evidence. This is an open fourm discussion and here is a list of sources I think will help to keep the discussion substantive and pointed.
Piltdown Man The Bogus Bones Caper
Early Human Phylogeny
Human Genome Project Information
Molecular Insights into Human Brain Evolution
PLoS
Another fast-evolving brain gene, John Hawks Weblog
If there is so much evidence proving our ancestor were apes then it should be no trouble producing it here. Particularly when faced with the psuedo-scientific arguments of a Creationist like myself.
With that I am going to open up the discussion and see what kind of arguments you come up with. Feel free to take this discussion into whatever you consider to be a valid and well supported proof. I'll wait and see what kind of interest this generates and will respond to any substantive and reasonably well supported argument.
Lets talk about all of this supposed evidence that proves human ancestors were apes.
All the evidence is supposed to point to a common ancestor for men and apes. Lets talk about all of this supposed evidence. This is an open fourm discussion and here is a list of sources I think will help to keep the discussion substantive and pointed.
Piltdown Man The Bogus Bones Caper
Early Human Phylogeny
Human Genome Project Information
Molecular Insights into Human Brain Evolution
PLoS
Another fast-evolving brain gene, John Hawks Weblog
If there is so much evidence proving our ancestor were apes then it should be no trouble producing it here. Particularly when faced with the psuedo-scientific arguments of a Creationist like myself.
With that I am going to open up the discussion and see what kind of arguments you come up with. Feel free to take this discussion into whatever you consider to be a valid and well supported proof. I'll wait and see what kind of interest this generates and will respond to any substantive and reasonably well supported argument.
"As far as understanding how our brains evolved, more questions remain than have been answered. One problem is that we don't really know enough about how our brains differ from those of other mammals and primates, although work by Zilles and others is helping here. We also know very little about how the areas of our brain are physically linked up, and we need to understand that before we can see how we differ from our nearest relatives. And as far as identifying the gene changes that were selected during evolution, although we have several candidates, we don't know how or if these gene variants affect our cognitive abilities. It is one thing, concludes Dunbar, to identify genetic or anatomic differences between human and ape brains, but quite another to know what they mean in terms of actual cognitive processes." (Molecular Insights into Human Brain Evolution, PLoS March 2005)
Lets talk about all of this supposed evidence that proves human ancestors were apes.
