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Correction, nothing we know ofFirst of all; Nothing is immortal, not even black holes nor the universe. Secondly you have yet to show us any evidence of this thing you call a "SOUL".
All hades will freeze over before the supernatural acquires empirical evidence proving its existence!
Um... sorry, but no you don't. We have biblical evidence that mind isnt reducible to matter, there is the fact that a mind and mental behavior runs the physical universe and determines the events, we have the effect of faith, prayer, the transcendence of time, evidence that cells are conscious (no brain required), and so forth. The latest attempt is to enslave electrons and pretend that consciousness does not already extend into and past that level. It's as if when one enslaves an ant and uses chemtrails as circuitry, conscious behavior originated with the field's circuit.
No scientific effect of prayer has ever been shown.
"Biblical evidence that mind isn't reducible to matter" is not evidence.
No prayer has ever gone unanswered. The soul is the beneficiary and its welfare is priority.
Why are your explanations evidence but biblical explanations aren't?
Because empirical evidence can be shown to be true and not all extrapolations from the Bible can be shown to be true and even more so to the point, some of those "Biblical explanations" have been shown to be false.
No prayer has ever gone unanswered. The soul is the beneficiary and its welfare is priority.
Why are your explanations evidence but biblical explanations aren't?
If you cannot show that it has never been unanswered
Now it's "explanations", huh.
Again, you are adding unnecessary words, to give it more weight.
There is no special kind of or "better" Harry Potter Evidence or Chemistry Evidence.
It's just evidence.
Now, if you want to switch it to Biblical Explanations, then ok. However, Now Harry Potter or Chemistry Explanations are different than explanations.
Plus, they somehow get to operate outside of standard evidence.
Awesome.
And you can show that it has been unanswered?
What is this "standard evidence?" The bible explains the phenomenon but your explanation is standard evidence? Ok, suit yourself.
You cannot show or not show that it has been unanswered. If the only way you can, is by defining how it works, then you have accomplished nothing.
Then there is no point is saying, "And you can show that it has been unanswered?" You just have a circular definition.
Now, I can create my own circular definition that supersedes or disproves yours.
Your logic and argument would favor either my definition being true and yours not, or we go on endlessly, and neither is valid.
So, which one?
Empirical evidence is just evidence supporting a scientific idea. Scientific ideas can never be shown to be true, despite the evidence.Because empirical evidence can be shown to be true
Not all scientific ideas can be shown to be true.and not all extrapolations from the Bible can be shown to be true
Which ones?and even more so to the point, some of those "Biblical explanations" have been shown to be false.
Empirical evidence is just evidence supporting a scientific idea. Scientific ideas can never be shown to be true, despite the evidence.
Not all scientific ideas can be show to be true.
Name one.
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What he said.
Dove, I wouldn't side with him if I were you. He's had 3 physicists explaining, in great detail, just why his assertions are wrong. They've explained everything he's talked about, and refuted all his claims to the contrary. Please, Dove. I don't want to see you go through that as well.
Dove, I wouldn't side with him if I were you. He's had 3 physicists explaining, in great detail, just why his assertions are wrong.
Are you one of those physicists?Dove, I wouldn't side with him if I were you. He's had 3 physicists explaining, in great detail, just why his assertions are wrong.
Are you one of those physicists?
If not, how do you know they are right and he is wrong?
Excuse me? Not one of them produced a single SHRED of empirical scientific evidence that redshift is related to "space expansion" let alone "dark energy". That kind of nonscience/nonsense never happens in the lab, not EVER!
What DOES occur in the lab is PLASMA REDSHIFT just as PC/EU theory predicts! Talk about pure denial of scientific facts. You guys are absolutely AMAZING at twisting reality to suit yourselves.
I named one. You don't like it. You've got NO empirical link between "acceleration" and "dark energy". In fact you've got no empirical link between redshifted photons and "space expansion". You've got ZIP in the way of empirical support, and a lot of "blind faith" in anything with the label "science" attached to it apparently.
If they are scientists, then why are they not open to competing ideas which have empirical support in a science lab, such as plasma redshift? The least they can do is check out the actual experiment in the science lab rather than pick at a math equation.I'm going to answer yours first, largely because I want to go on a tangent.
First of all- no. I am not one of those physicists. I am a 2nd year molecular biology undergrad.
Now how do I know they're right? Well I don't know that they're right, but I have good reason to take their word over Michael's These people have spent a good portion of their lives studying, working, practically crawling over glass to understand the subject at hand. These are not some random schmucks off the street; they're scientists.
So the only reason you support their ideas is because they are physicists? Is that it?In the end it's the fact that I'm an elitist. I believe certain people are especially qualified in certain areas and whose opinions should be regarded above all other's. We go to the doctor when we feel ill, we go to the dentist when we want our cavities filled, and we go to the surgeon when we need an operation. We do not go to the slack-jawed hillbilly when we want to learn about the laws that govern the universe. When a scientist is telling you that every single thing you're saying is wrong, you stop and seriously reconsider your position.
Ok. I'm done for now. Sorry for dumping all of this on you, but scientists are my heroes. I can't quite stand it when people don't listen to them.
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