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I think, with some soap and water, and a bit of touch-up paint, and he'll be back on the road in no time.IMO, it appears we are approaching that time again, where a change in user name may be needed.
But you look oh so comfortable in your armchair.Indeed it is easy to toss ideas and theories around whilst sitting in the comfort of our armchairs, heads held high in the theoretical clouds.
We can do that so long as reality does not intrude and like a great magnet, slams us back down with our feet firmly planted on the earth.
Reality has a way of sifting us like wheat. The chaff is dispersed like so many theories and notions we jettison once we realize through the crucible of human experience that they meant something to us only as long as they were left unexposed and unchallenged by the rigors of life.
Would you commit your life to Christ and renounce your sins, repent and become His disciple if I gave you testable evidence for His divinity?
And if I made a strong and comprehensive positive case for my God and all that entails, established the universe requires an intelligent Creator and sustainer without appealing to human society, established all of my pertinent religious dogma etc., would you be obedient to Christ's call to repentance which entails renouncing those things which He says are worthy of renouncing and making Him Lord of your life, among other things?
Would you commit your life to Christ and renounce your sins, repent and become His disciple if I gave you testable evidence for His divinity?
My spider sense is tingling. I sense a punchline that involves a play on the meaning of "giving" testable evidence.
.... if you could show that God exists and that the proper ethical relationship with such a God is to make him Lord and Master, then sure....
No kidding. It can't just be testable evidence, but rather evidence that is testable and actually tests true. Also, I'm waiting for so-called testable evidence that is, in fact, either not testable or not true. The interlocutor will simply claim that he has met the test and call those who deny it liars.
I do hypothesize that some individuals that come here have no intention of answering your questions, or substantiating their claims. It is enough for them to see if their "faith" can weather such questioning. They entrench, rather than reason.I've basically given up trying to get him to answer questions. Even in the thread he created for the very purpose of answering questions, he has dodged questions. We are seeing nothing different here.
I do hypothesize that some individuals that come here have no intention of answering your questions, or substantiating their claims. It is enough for them to see if their "faith" can weather such questioning. They entrench, rather than reason.
Yet it would seem that they simultaneously wish to convince others these beliefs onto which they hold so tight are an accurate description of reality, and make that claim.
An awkward approach, on their part.
Not to mention the fact that, almost every reply he gives, sounds as if he's quoting directly from the work of WLC.IMO, they are not secure in their faith, so they need to test the waters by putting their feet in. When the water gets too high, they run back out and take refuge on the beach, to avoid any risk, they can't handle.
The fact that it appears this OP has changed user names several times, tells you all you need to know.
I do hypothesize that some individuals that come here have no intention of answering your questions, or substantiating their claims. It is enough for them to see if their "faith" can weather such questioning. They entrench, rather than reason.
Yet it would seem that they simultaneously wish to convince others these beliefs onto which they hold so tight are an accurate description of reality, and make that claim.
An awkward approach, on their part.
Why would one necessarily concern themselves with worshiping anything? What's the point?
So you believe."God's word" signifying the 66 books of the Old and New Testaments.
Sure. You have that Great Pumpkin epistemology going for you.It is not my position that the mere interpretation of these books as God's words to man makes the books God's words to man anymore than a Muslim 's interpretation of the Quran as the revelation of God makes the Quran the revelation of God.
Or yet again failing to do so, I would presume.Belief that the author of b is G, does not G the author make of b.
Rather, G is the author of b, if and only if G authored b.
And I am not interested at all in demonstrating the Bible is God's word here.
Do you drive a Dodge in real life? That would be so ironic.Which beliefs exactly?
I don't see the point of your hypotheticals.My hypothetical may be pointless to you. It isn't to me.
And I will put it to you. What would you do? Would you be obedient to the call?
Indeed it is easy to toss ideas and theories around whilst sitting in the comfort of our armchairs, heads held high in the theoretical clouds.
We can do that so long as reality does not intrude and like a great magnet, slams us back down with our feet firmly planted on the earth.
Reality has a way of sifting us like wheat. The chaff is dispersed like so many theories and notions we jettison once we realize through the crucible of human experience that they meant something to us only as long as they were left unexposed and unchallenged by the rigors of life.
Would you commit your life to Christ and renounce your sins, repent and become His disciple if I gave you testable evidence for His divinity?
Not just your claims, but how much of mainstream scientific knowledge must be tossed in order to accommodate them. You have not been clear on that.And if you had no reasons to be skeptical of my claims would you commit to Christ your life and become His disciple?
You could ask, but it begs the question: what claims are there out there that exist with unanimous acceptance?You see, I could ask you if there are any claims you hold to be true that are not unanimously held. I'm sure your answer would be "yes". From this it would be shown that when it comes to these particular claims, the fact that they are disputed is not enough to make you skeptical of them.
That would be faulty logic. And, speaking for myself, I do not make any delineation between claims of religion and claims of things like alleged visitations by extraterrestrial aliens.It would follow then, that your skepticism of certain theological claims is owed at least in part to something other than the fact that they are matters of debate.
I do not use that approach. Before we get to evidence, I'd ask that the [insert religious claim here] be defined in a testable, falsifiable manner, so at least we can agree upon what we are talking about.When it comes to the criteria for assessing the veracity of theogical truth claims, some set the bar so high as to make it virtually impossible for said criteria to be fulfilled. The slogan "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" is a favorite of some.
So you believe.
Sure. You have that Great Pumpkin epistemology going for you.
Do you drive a Dodge in real life? That would be so ironic.
You could start post #804, where you claim that "God" is not simply a product of your imagination. Beyond that, pretend that you are in a philosophy forum, addressing someone that self-identifies as an ignostic; define this "God" thing that you claim exists - in a testable, falsifiable manner - and we'll go from there. Or, if you like, dodge.
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