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Philip Johnson responds to Gould

This is a (presumably old) response to an old review by Gould (1992), but I just read it for the first time. What I found fascinating about it is how well it describes the kind of attitudes present in this forum from defenders of evolution.

http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/arn/orpages/or151/151johngould.htm

What divides Gould and me has little to do with scientific evidence and everything to do with metaphysics. Gould approaches the question of evolution from a philosophical starting point in scientific naturalism. From that standpoint the blind watchmaker thesis is true in principle by definition. Science may not know all the details yet, but something very much like Darwinian evolution simply has to be responsible for our existence because there is no acceptable alternative. If there are gaps or defects in the existing theory, the appropriate response is to supply additional naturalistic hypotheses. Critics who disparage Darwinism without offering a naturalistic alternative are seen as attacking science itself, probably in order to impose a religious straitjacket upon science and society. One does not reason with such persons; one employs any means at hand to discourage them.

But maybe Darwinism really is false--in principle, and not just in detail. Maybe mindless material processes cannot create information-rich biological systems. That is a real possibility, no matter how offensive to scientific naturalists. How do Darwinists know that the blind watchmaker created animal phyla, for example, since the process can't be demonstrated and all the historical evidence is missing? Darwinists may have the cultural power to suppress questions like that for a time, but eventually they are going to have to come to grips with them. There are a lot of theists in America, not to mention the rest of the world, and persons who promote naturalism in the name of science will not forever be able to deny them a fair hearing.

Scientific naturalists who think that Darwinism can be defended by waging ideological war against the critics are free to follow the example of Stephen Jay Gould. Others may prefer to take the path of Michael Ruse and the Darwinist scientists who participated in an academic symposium on Darwin on Trial in March 1992 at Southern Methodist University. These persons learned that it is possible to debate metaphysical differences in an academic setting in a fair-minded and mutually respectful manner. In the end the entire scientific community will have to acknowledge that honest discussion--with assumptions identified and terms precisely defined--is the only method for resolving disagreement that is consistent with the best traditions of science itself. When scientists defend a cherished doctrine by obscuring the issues and intimidating the critics, it is a sure sign that what they are defending isn't science.
 
What divides Gould and Johnson is that Gould actually was an authority on the stuff he talks about. Johnson is a Christian lawyer who is intimidated by the results of science and what's to change it to fit his religious beliefs. Sorry, the accuracy of science cannot be determined by philosophy, emotion, politics, or religion. That's about all Johnson has to offer, and thus his citiques of science are valueless.
 
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Originally posted by npetreley
Critics who disparage Darwinism without offering a naturalistic alternative are seen as attacking science itself, probably in order to impose a religious straitjacket upon science and society. One does not reason with such persons; one employs any means at hand to discourage them.


Seeing as they never explain to us how to conduct non-naturalistic science, these kind of critics ARE attacking science itself.

Also, I would correct that last sentence to say "One cannot reason with such persons...".

But maybe Darwinism really is false--in principle, and not just in detail. Maybe mindless material processes cannot create information-rich biological systems. That is a real possibility, no matter how offensive to scientific naturalists. How do Darwinists know that the blind watchmaker created animal phyla, for example, since the process can't be demonstrated and all the historical evidence is missing? Darwinists may have the cultural power to suppress questions like that for a time, but eventually they are going to have to come to grips with them.

Darwinists aren't supressing anything.  We are just insisting that whatever alternative theory you propose is supported by the evidence.  As all of the "Positive evidence for X" threads on the board have shown, there is precious little evidence in favor of any creationist theory.

There are a lot of theists in America, not to mention the rest of the world, and persons who promote naturalism in the name of science will not forever be able to deny them a fair hearing.

And there are a lot of theists in America who have successfully resolved any conflict between evolution and their religious beliefs. 

When scientists defend a cherished doctrine by obscuring the issues and intimidating the critics, it is a sure sign that what they are defending isn't science.

This is a quite ironic statement coming from the master of obscurantism and intimidation.

 
 
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