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<blockquote data-quote="grasping the after wind" data-source="post: 76060452" data-attributes="member: 256417"><p>I don't do a default . I examine the facts and come to conclusions based upon them and the assumptions that I consider self evident. I don't equate authoritarianism with a big heart. I also said not a thing close to being considered "tough love". I don't think it is unreasonable or unkind to expect people that bring children into the world to take responsibility for those children's welfare. I do think it is unreasonable and unfair to expect strangers to do that for one. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They do not have any statistical analysis to back up the silly assertion that marriage is a middle class construct. Marriage having existed much longer than the notion or existence of any middle class would seem to rule out the idea that it is a middle class construct.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It sure would seem extremely silly to expect one would lead to the other. How could keeping children hungry prevent single pregnancy. Preventing single pregnancy might well be a way to keep many children from being born into a situation where they become hungry due to irresponsible people being their parents. In that way one might reduce the number of children who are hungry in the world. As you point out, there are many medical means to prevent conception and there are also many other ways to be assured one does not become pregnant that do not require a physicians assistance. Refusing to take advantage of any of those avenues, when they are readily available and in some cases covered completely by insurance or in others being given out free of charge or totally without monetary cost , seems irresponsible don't you think? I do not know that any churches oppose every means of contraception. I believe there is one method that every church approves of. Most churches have no stand against several means. I really don't see anything cruel about asking parents to care for their own children or asking people to be responsible for their own actions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="grasping the after wind, post: 76060452, member: 256417"] I don't do a default . I examine the facts and come to conclusions based upon them and the assumptions that I consider self evident. I don't equate authoritarianism with a big heart. I also said not a thing close to being considered "tough love". I don't think it is unreasonable or unkind to expect people that bring children into the world to take responsibility for those children's welfare. I do think it is unreasonable and unfair to expect strangers to do that for one. They do not have any statistical analysis to back up the silly assertion that marriage is a middle class construct. Marriage having existed much longer than the notion or existence of any middle class would seem to rule out the idea that it is a middle class construct. It sure would seem extremely silly to expect one would lead to the other. How could keeping children hungry prevent single pregnancy. Preventing single pregnancy might well be a way to keep many children from being born into a situation where they become hungry due to irresponsible people being their parents. In that way one might reduce the number of children who are hungry in the world. As you point out, there are many medical means to prevent conception and there are also many other ways to be assured one does not become pregnant that do not require a physicians assistance. Refusing to take advantage of any of those avenues, when they are readily available and in some cases covered completely by insurance or in others being given out free of charge or totally without monetary cost , seems irresponsible don't you think? I do not know that any churches oppose every means of contraception. I believe there is one method that every church approves of. Most churches have no stand against several means. I really don't see anything cruel about asking parents to care for their own children or asking people to be responsible for their own actions. [/QUOTE]
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