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<blockquote data-quote="cantata" data-source="post: 52917591" data-attributes="member: 179261"><p>Butnewsflashshe <em>isnt a man</em>. Shes a woman. (By the way, later you described her as a woman, as if you intended to imply that she is not a <em>real</em> woman. She is a real woman. Your use of scare quotes is offensive.)</p><p></p><p>Yes, she has testes that have not descended, but the only relevance of that to her performance is that she high levels of androgens. However, the fact is that many women with CAH also have high levels of androgens, yet women with CAH (most of whom are not intersexed, i.e. they do not have male gonads) are not excluded from taking part in the womens competition. So we can only conclude that this is not about hormones (which might just about be reasonable although its a sliding scale anyway so exactly where you should draw the line is anybodys guess); its about the fact that some people find intersexuality disturbing.</p><p></p><p>Had they done a test and found she had CAH and was not intersexed, what would you say then? Should she still not be allowed to compete against other women?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cantata, post: 52917591, member: 179261"] Butnewsflashshe [I]isnt a man[/I]. Shes a woman. (By the way, later you described her as a woman, as if you intended to imply that she is not a [I]real[/I] woman. She is a real woman. Your use of scare quotes is offensive.) Yes, she has testes that have not descended, but the only relevance of that to her performance is that she high levels of androgens. However, the fact is that many women with CAH also have high levels of androgens, yet women with CAH (most of whom are not intersexed, i.e. they do not have male gonads) are not excluded from taking part in the womens competition. So we can only conclude that this is not about hormones (which might just about be reasonable although its a sliding scale anyway so exactly where you should draw the line is anybodys guess); its about the fact that some people find intersexuality disturbing. Had they done a test and found she had CAH and was not intersexed, what would you say then? Should she still not be allowed to compete against other women? [/QUOTE]
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