PAUL WAS FIRST IN THE BODY OF CHRIST ?

[Dan Perez]

I believe that Paul was saved in Acts 9 , but Rom 16:7 says some have also have become in Christ BEFORE ME !!

How can that be ?? your thoughts ??

dan p

 

[Aristarkos]

I believe that Paul was saved in Acts 9 , but Rom 16:7 says some have also have become in Christ BEFORE ME !!

How can that be ?? your thoughts ??

dan p

Being "in Christ" is something different then "the body of Christ". Only in Ephesians this mystery was revealed to Paul. This great mystery (Eph 5:32), was hidden away from all aions and generations in God (Eph. 3:9), but has been made known now (Col. 1:26). So in Acts or Romans it was unknown.

Aristarkos

 

[Dan Perez]

Being "in Christ" is something different then "the body of Christ". Only in Ephesians this mystery was revealed to Paul. This great mystery (Eph 5:32), was hidden away from all aions and generations in God (Eph. 3:9), but has been made known now (Col. 1:26). So in Acts or Romans it was unknown.

Aristarkos

And I believe that there a difference between being " in Christ " redemptively , and being ' in the body of Christ '

Dispensationally .

There two separate positions , being ' in Christ ' is because of salvation or being in the body of Christ .

And in Rom 16:8 . it says that many are " in the Lord or verse 13 chosen in the Lord and from the verse 25 that they are

preaching according to my gospel and according to MY GOSPEL and the preaching of Jesus according to the Revelation

of the MYSTERY having kept silence in time PERTAINING to the AGES .

Notice Rom 16:26 , having been made KNOWN all the GENTILES ( does not mention Jews ) fpr the obedience of FAITH ,

and to be IN the FAITH , All have to be teaching the Revelation of the MYSTERY to be in the FAITH , PERIOD !!

dan p

 

[Dan Perez]

And I believe that there a difference between being " in Christ " redemptively , and being ' in the body of Christ '

Dispensationally .

There two separate positions , being ' in Christ ' is because of salvation or being in the body of Christ .

And in Rom 16:8 . it says that many are " in the Lord or verse 13 chosen in the Lord and from the verse 25 that they are

preaching according to my gospel and according to MY GOSPEL and the preaching of Jesus according to the Revelation

of the MYSTERY having kept silence in time PERTAINING to the AGES .iistarkors

Notice Rom 16:26 , having been made KNOWN all the GENTILES ( does not mention Jews ) fpr the obedience of FAITH ,

and to be IN the FAITH , All have to be teaching the Revelation of the MYSTERY to be in the FAITH , PERIOD !!

dan p

Aristarkos , read 1 THESS 2:14 and they were IMITATORES of Paul as in 1 Thess 2:14 !!

dan p

 

[David Lamb]

I believe that Paul was saved in Acts 9 , but Rom 16:7 says some have also have become in Christ BEFORE ME !!

How can that be ?? your thoughts ??

dan p

I am not really sure what you are saying. Clearly there were already Christian believers before Paul was converted. Stephen, Peter, and James are just three examples.

 

[Aristarkos]

Notice Rom 16:26 , having been made KNOWN all the GENTILES ( does not mention Jews ) fpr the obedience of FAITH ,

and to be IN the FAITH , All have to be teaching the Revelation of the MYSTERY to be in the FAITH , PERIOD !!

The mystery in Rom. 16 mentioned is not the mystery only later revealed to Paul. In Rom. 16:26 it doesn't necessarily talk about "gentiles" but about all the nations, Greek ἔθνη (ethnē). See in 1 Peter 2:9 where Israel is called an ἔθνος (ethnos).

Not sure about your last sentence, but being in faith is not a mystery.

Aristarkos

 

[Dan Perez]

I am not really sure what you are saying. Clearly there were already Christian believers before Paul was converted. Stephen, Peter, and James are just three examples.

Will you provide a verse who those Christians // Christianos just means a FOLLOWER of Christ in Acts 11:26 , and 1 Peter 4:16

does NOT mean they are in the Body of Christ !!

Just asking as to where you believe the Body of Christ Began ??

dan p

 

[David Lamb]

Will you provide a verse who those Christians // Christianos just means a FOLLOWER of Christ in Acts 11:26 , and 1 Peter 4:16

does NOT mean they are in the Body of Christ !!

Just asking as to where you believe the Body of Christ Began ??

dan p

Acts 11:26 calls them disciples:

“And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught a great many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.” (Ac 11:26 NKJV)

The idea that someone can be a Christian, a follower or disciple without being in Christ's body doesn't seem correct.

“For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another.” (Ro 12:4-5 NKJV)

“Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually.” (1Co 12:27 NKJV)

“And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.” (Eph 1:22-23 NKJV)

“For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones.” (Eph 5:30 NKJV)

Of course there was Judas Iscariot, who was numbered among the disciples, but was not truly one. Likewise, there may well be church members who are hypocrites, and like Judas, are not really disciples at all. But generally, when in the New Testament the body of Christ is mentioned (other than when referring to His actual physical body), it refers to Christians, followers of the Saviour. If somebody is truly a follower of Christ, then that person is in Christ.

 

[Dan Perez]

Acts 11:26 calls them disciples:

“And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught a great many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.” (Ac 11:26 NKJV)

The idea that someone can be a Christian, a follower or disciple without being in Christ's body doesn't seem correct.

“For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another.” (Ro 12:4-5 NKJV)

“Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually.” (1Co 12:27 NKJV)

“And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.” (Eph 1:22-23 NKJV)

“For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones.” (Eph 5:30 NKJV)

Of course there was Judas Iscariot, who was numbered among the disciples, but was not truly one. Likewise, there may well be church members who are hypocrites, and like Judas, are not really disciples at all. But generally, when in the New Testament the body of Christ is mentioned (other than when referring to His actual physical body), it refers to Christians, followers of the Saviour. If somebody is truly a follower of Christ, then that person is in Christ.

i believe that just being a CHRISTAN // means FOLLOWER does NOT say he is in the Body of Christ !!

Maybe you have a verse where the Body of Christ began and just who it is , and I believe it began with Paul

and not the 12 apostles , just asking ??

As Saul //Paul is the apostles to the Gentiles .

dan p