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My personal opinion is that anyone who labels himself as prophet isn't a prophet. That's , particularly true when he does it in the self-aggrandizing manner you have described to us and, also, when there isn't anything particularly prophetic coming forth from him.So I was wondering what Christians here think about self-proclaimed "prophets"?
The major issues of course are that not all of them were foretelling the life and ministry of Jesus.many of the prophecies in Genesis and throughout the book related to events in Jesus life and ministry, so the argument that scripture was intended for the context of the time it was written in certainly does not apply to the things that were accomplished in Jesus 1st advent: so why would you not expect those same scriptures to apply to the 2nd coming as well?
I said fresh stuff because that is what the passage implies.Why fresh stuff?
My sisters go to a tiny pentecostal church and the pastor (who did a doctorate in demonology) calls himself a prophet - "Prophet [first initial] [Last name]". The website usually no longer says what his first name is. My sister said he doesn't want to be famous. On the website he has 14 books that he has written listed - there doesn't seem to be an easy way to buy them. One of my sisters is working on her 4th book (related to Christianity) though she is a speech therapist.
Here are excerpts from a sermon of his from several years ago:
I focused on the parts I found most repulsive but I don't think it is out of context.
I think there is at least one passage in the OT that says that if a supposed prophet gets something wrong, then they should be put to death.
My sisters said that in the NT it says that people can have the gift of prophecy.
So I was wondering what Christians here think about self-proclaimed "prophets"?
Okay, i see.I said fresh stuff because that is what the passage implies.
If these people were expected to repeat existing scriptures they could be simply learned, as indeed many did at that time.
Matt10v18And you will be brought also before governors and kings on account of Me, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. 19And when they deliver you up, do not be anxious how or what you should speak; for in that hour you will be given what you should say, 20for you are not those speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
And if it is the Spirit of the Father speaking, why would he limit himself to existing things.
But why do you presume its about bible verses? When you read about the apostles' adventures, they didn't just speak in scriptures to people, they spoke like real people do, using scriptures only where appropriate.Okay, i see.
But i think most Christians could use big help in finding the right Bible verses to counter what people may throw at them.
And that's why the Lord says not to do that, but instead to listen to what the spirit says.And i think it would be more powerful too, to use that good old hated Book, to show it has all been revealed thousands of years ago and sitting on countless bookshelves around the world.
So that's kind of how i envisioned it.
Real people can use scripture too.But why do you presume its about bible verses? When you read about the apostles' adventures, they didn't just speak in scriptures to people, they spoke like real people do, using scriptures only where appropriate.
That's not what He said though.And that's why the Lord says not to do that, but instead to listen to what the spirit says.
We are agreed!The point is not to rely on your own knowledge.
Talking of sheep, about 15 years back, I kept a flock and none of them knew my voice!G_d talked with only a few people in the OT but now He talks to all (John 10:27-28). But not all are prophets (I Cor 12:29). Yes, great care should be taken when speaking words from G_d.
Also, "...ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted." (I Cor 14:31).
How are we doing? Don't know of any sheep who hear and speak with 100% accuracy.
My sisters go to a tiny pentecostal church and the pastor (who did a doctorate in demonology) calls himself a prophet - "Prophet [first initial] [Last name]". The website usually no longer says what his first name is. My sister said he doesn't want to be famous. On the website he has 14 books that he has written listed - there doesn't seem to be an easy way to buy them. One of my sisters is working on her 4th book (related to Christianity) though she is a speech therapist.
Here are excerpts from a sermon of his from several years ago:
I focused on the parts I found most repulsive but I don't think it is out of context.
I think there is at least one passage in the OT that says that if a supposed prophet gets something wrong, then they should be put to death.
My sisters said that in the NT it says that people can have the gift of prophecy.
So I was wondering what Christians here think about self-proclaimed "prophets"?
The rest of the story.Interesting I know of a shepherd whose experience was the opposite. Could only whisper; otherwise, the sheep would come running.
My sisters go to a tiny pentecostal church and the pastor (who did a doctorate in demonology) calls himself a prophet - "Prophet [first initial] [Last name]". The website usually no longer says what his first name is. My sister said he doesn't want to be famous. On the website he has 14 books that he has written listed - there doesn't seem to be an easy way to buy them. One of my sisters is working on her 4th book (related to Christianity) though she is a speech therapist.
Here are excerpts from a sermon of his from several years ago:
I focused on the parts I found most repulsive but I don't think it is out of context.
I think there is at least one passage in the OT that says that if a supposed prophet gets something wrong, then they should be put to death.
My sisters said that in the NT it says that people can have the gift of prophecy.
So I was wondering what Christians here think about self-proclaimed "prophets"?
My sisters go to a tiny pentecostal church and the pastor (who did a doctorate in demonology) calls himself a prophet - "Prophet [first initial] [Last name]". The website usually no longer says what his first name is. My sister said he doesn't want to be famous. On the website he has 14 books that he has written listed - there doesn't seem to be an easy way to buy them. One of my sisters is working on her 4th book (related to Christianity) though she is a speech therapist.
Here are excerpts from a sermon of his from several years ago:
I focused on the parts I found most repulsive but I don't think it is out of context.
I think there is at least one passage in the OT that says that if a supposed prophet gets something wrong, then they should be put to death.
My sisters said that in the NT it says that people can have the gift of prophecy.
So I was wondering what Christians here think about self-proclaimed "prophets"?
Why apply that rule just to prophets, why not apply it to all five ministries?My general rule of thumb: If someone calls themselves a prophet then run the opposite direction. Run hard, run fast, don't look back.
-CryptoLutheran
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