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<blockquote data-quote="Mechanical Bliss" data-source="post: 1140406" data-attributes="member: 5048"><p>The offer is fraudulent. What Hovind calls "evolution" is not in any way relevant to what the theory of evolution is to scientists back in the real world. Really what Hovind wants is for someone to give objective proof that no god exists. He's trying to appeal to the emotions of theists who have an extreme dislike for atheism and atheists and trying to connect that directly to the theory of evolution.</p><p> </p><p>No, it's not. It has nothing to do with the supernatural or any deity. It is the best explanation for all available evidence.</p><p> </p><p>Probably zero "intellectuals" would say that--reputable ones, that is. If it uses the scientific method, it's science. It has nothing to do with emotion--those are the creationists desperate to come up with a theory that actually explains evidence.</p><p> </p><p>The vast majority of scientists call creationism hogwash, because it is. And yes, the majority of Christians call creationism hogwash as well. Your fallacy here is equating the theory of evolution with atheism.</p><p> </p><p>What evidence? So far, the science forum has yet to see any creationist defend their position without scrutiny that soundly disproves it.</p><p> </p><p>Evolution is not atheism.</p><p> </p><p>All I can say is the old catchphrase, "put up or shut up." I keep hearing claims that creationism is well supported by "scientific evidence" but people are never willing to back up that claim.</p><p> </p><p>It's a fraudulent offer, and if you go over to the science forum, you can see for yourself that every single Hovind claim that comes up is easily refuted. Hovind relies on the ignorance and emotional sensitivities of his readers to convince them that young earth creationism MUST be true and evolution is a mass conspiracy on the part of atheists. The people convinced by Hovind do not have the educational background or willingness to research his claims to evaluate his site honestly. He also appeals to their emotions by convincing them that the layman can be significantly smarter than the most well qualified scientist giving a false feeling of superiority that is completely unwarranted. Of course tying evolution to atheism also appeals to the emotions of the theist searching to validate their beliefs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mechanical Bliss, post: 1140406, member: 5048"] The offer is fraudulent. What Hovind calls "evolution" is not in any way relevant to what the theory of evolution is to scientists back in the real world. Really what Hovind wants is for someone to give objective proof that no god exists. He's trying to appeal to the emotions of theists who have an extreme dislike for atheism and atheists and trying to connect that directly to the theory of evolution. No, it's not. It has nothing to do with the supernatural or any deity. It is the best explanation for all available evidence. Probably zero "intellectuals" would say that--reputable ones, that is. If it uses the scientific method, it's science. It has nothing to do with emotion--those are the creationists desperate to come up with a theory that actually explains evidence. The vast majority of scientists call creationism hogwash, because it is. And yes, the majority of Christians call creationism hogwash as well. Your fallacy here is equating the theory of evolution with atheism. What evidence? So far, the science forum has yet to see any creationist defend their position without scrutiny that soundly disproves it. Evolution is not atheism. All I can say is the old catchphrase, "put up or shut up." I keep hearing claims that creationism is well supported by "scientific evidence" but people are never willing to back up that claim. It's a fraudulent offer, and if you go over to the science forum, you can see for yourself that every single Hovind claim that comes up is easily refuted. Hovind relies on the ignorance and emotional sensitivities of his readers to convince them that young earth creationism MUST be true and evolution is a mass conspiracy on the part of atheists. The people convinced by Hovind do not have the educational background or willingness to research his claims to evaluate his site honestly. He also appeals to their emotions by convincing them that the layman can be significantly smarter than the most well qualified scientist giving a false feeling of superiority that is completely unwarranted. Of course tying evolution to atheism also appeals to the emotions of the theist searching to validate their beliefs. [/QUOTE]
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