Passover and others

[BGMCFAR]

I was wondering why we as Christians we don't keep the Passover and the other feasts of God and yet people keep Christmas and Easter which in reality are pagan holidays and in alll my searchingI have found no scripture that says we shouldn't observe these.and didn't Jesus keep the Passover

 

[Cribstyl]

I was wondering why we as Christians we don't keep the Passover and the other feasts of God and yet people keep Christmas and Easter which in reality are pagan holidays and in alll my searchingI have found no scripture that says we shouldn't observe these.and didn't Jesus keep the Passover

Have you also wondered why in Ex12, God only mentioned Passover and circumcision and did not include the "socalled" eternal sabbath as an ordinance that strangers would also keep forever?


Exd 12:48And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

Could it be because sabbath was not given as yet?

Why is circumcision clearly mentioned to Abraham as an everlasting covenant and no mention about sabbath?
Gen 17:13He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.


Why is circumcision clearly revealed as an ordinance,Gen(14)Exd(2) but not one word about anyone keeping sabbath?
Gen 21:4And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac being eight days old, as God had commanded him.

If sabbath is a creation ordinance that was lost during the years of slavery, (rather than nonexistant as yet) why was circumcision which began with Abraham emediately reestablished going forward before leaving Egypt and no mention of the infamous sabbath until Ex16?


CRIB

 

[Byfaithalone1]

I was wondering why we as Christians we don't keep the Passover and the other feasts of God

Is it possible to keep the feasts as God commanded them to be kept without offering animal sacrifices?

and yet people keep Christmas and Easter which in reality are pagan holidays and in alll my searchingI have found no scripture that says we shouldn't observe these.

Please feel free not to do anything special on Christmas or Easter. Such practices are not mandated by God or by Scripture. Pursuant to Romans 14, I will not judge you for your observance (or non-observance) of special days. Hopefully, you will extend to me the same courtesy.

and didn't Jesus keep the Passover

Didn't Jesus offer animal sacrifices? Should you?

BFA

 

[Cribstyl]

I was wondering why we as Christians we don't keep the Passover and the other feasts of God and yet people keep Christmas and Easter which in reality are pagan holidays and in alll my searchingI have found no scripture that says we shouldn't observe these.and didn't Jesus keep the Passover

That's a good question.
Contrary to what many people claim about "Easter's pagan origins" the fact is; Easter is the celebration of the Passover.


Easter ; pascha

Outline of Biblical Usage
1) the paschal sacrifice (which was accustomed to be offered for the people's deliverance of old from Egypt)
2) the paschal lamb, i.e. the lamb the Israelites were accustomed to slay and eat on the fourteenth day of the month of Nisan (the first month of their year) in memory of the day on which their fathers, preparing to depart from Egypt, were bidden by God to slay and eat a lamb, and to sprinkle their door posts with its blood, that the destroying angel, seeing the blood, might pass over their dwellings; Christ crucified is likened to the slain paschal lamb
3) the paschal supper
4) the paschal feast, the feast of the Passover, extending from the 14th to the 20th day of the month Nisan




1Cr 5:7Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Cr 5:8Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened [bread] of sincerity and truth.


The bible is saying that we should keep the same feast, with the understanding that the blood of Jesus is why the death angel will pass over us. Jesus Christ is the Lamp of God that takes away the sins of the world.


CRIB

 

[Cribstyl]

.....in alll my searching I have found no scripture that says we shouldn't observe these.and didn't Jesus keep the Passover

Something tells me that if God wanted all humanity to gather or keep any ordinance, He would have used prophets or apostles to make it a clear commandment or law.

Jesus made it clear that we all should be baptized. The apostles also made it clear that we all should be baptized.
Jesus made it clear that we should keep the Lord's supper. The apostles also made it clear that we should keep the Lord's supper.

Why dont most church keep footwashing? (my unsholared opinion)
Jesus nor His apostles never intended footwashing as a church ordinance.
What did Jesus mean by saying; (Read John chapter 13 Jhn 13:1)

Jhn 13:13Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for [so] I am.
Jhn 13:14If I then, [your] Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.
Jhn 13:15For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
Jhn 13:16Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
Jhn 13:17If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.

The lesson is for those in leadership : If your Master and Lord can humble Himself and wash your feet, you should also humble yourselves to serve each other as true servants of God.
Dont become so high and mighty that you cannot bend down and serve each other.


CRIB

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

I was wondering why we as Christians we don't keep the Passover and the other feasts of God

Some Christians do.

Is it possible to keep the feasts as God commanded them to be kept without offering animal sacrifices?

Yes, because Christ's sacrifice, to which these sacrifices point has been offered for us. Christ even showed us, His last night on earth how we were to observe Passover under the New Covenant.

Contrary to what many people claim about "Easter's pagan origins" the fact is; Easter is the celebration of the Passover.

Are you aware that the Catholic Church set Easter on the calendar in such a manner that it cannot fall on the day of Passover?

 

[NaLuvena]

I was wondering why we as Christians we don't keep the Passover and the other feasts of God and yet people keep Christmas and Easter which in reality are pagan holidays and in alll my searchingI have found no scripture that says we shouldn't observe these.and didn't Jesus keep the Passover

The Passover (as Cribstyl already posted) is the Easter we now celebrate.

The Passover Lamb was a shadow of the death of the Lamb of God, to save us, from the Angel of Death.

 

[Cribstyl]

Have you also wondered why in Ex12, God only mentioned Passover and circumcision and did not include the "socalled" eternal sabbath as an ordinance that strangers would also keep forever?


Exd 12:48And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

Could it be because sabbath was not given as yet?

Why is circumcision clearly mentioned to Abraham as an everlasting covenant and no mention about sabbath?
Gen 17:13He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.


Why is circumcision clearly revealed as an ordinance,Gen(14)Exd(2) but not one word about anyone keeping sabbath?
Gen 21:4And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac being eight days old, as God had commanded him.

If sabbath is a creation ordinance that was lost during the years of slavery, (rather than nonexistant as yet) why was circumcision which began with Abraham emediately reestablished going forward before leaving Egypt and no mention of the infamous sabbath until Ex16?


CRIB

 

[BigRedBus]

Passover is a Jewish festival -- it has no special significance for Gentiles, which is why you would not expect Christians to celebrate it.

Passover, Easter and the March Equinox are all linked, but not tightly. The timing of Passover is related to a lunar calendar, which does not readily synchronise with the seasons, nor the conventional solar calendar in use in the West nowadays. Easter, too, is determined in relation to a full moon, but also has to take into account the March Equinox (which is, of course, dependent on the solar calendar). So that is why the date moves about. In 325 AD, churches agreed that Easter is the first Sunday after the first Full Moon after March 20th (ie. the Spring Equinox locally). This worked fine at the time, because from the point of view of the Roman Empire they could discount the Southern Hemisphere (where it isn't spring in March) or the International Dateline (which means the same moon can potentially be seen on two different dates). It just so happened that the Catholic Church was involved (it would be odd if they weren't, given their dominance then) but I am sure the primary purpose of this standardisation was not to detach Passover from Easter. Even if that was the outcome, so what?

You are never more than 26 days from a Pagan Festival, so wherever you put it a Christian Festival is bound to end up somewhere nearby to a Pagan one. The supposed synchronisation of Pagan and Chrisitan festivals is therefore a non-issue. Pagans celebrate the March Equinox and May 1st, for instance, but Easter moves about across this general area. Anyway, you are only celebrating a Pagan Festival on any of the dates if that's what you deliberately set out to do. You can't do it accidentally, or while you are actually celebrating something else.

Incidentally, the Eastern Orthodox Church (a major world religion, and dominant in South-Eastern and Eastern Europe) runs on an entriely different calendar, which has slight inconsistencies built into it when compared to the Western (ie Gregorian) Calendar. So their Easter date might be up to 5 weeks away from ours. Yet nobody suggests that their Easter is related to Pagan Festivals!

 

[Byfaithalone1]

I was wondering why we as Christians we don't keep the Passover and the other feasts of God

I have yet to meet a person who keeps the passover according to God's commands. I have, however, met people who claim that they do.

and yet people keep Christmas and Easter which in reality are pagan holidays

Not all Christians observe Christmas and Easter. There is nothing Biblical to support the observance of either holiday. However, Romans 14 leaves me little room to judge a person regardless of his position on such holidays.

and didn't Jesus keep the Passover

Is Jesus the passover Lamb?

BFA