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It was obvious I was talking about a bible story. It was written with specific references to Jesus. I don't see how that could have been misunderstood. I. Was defamed.

It wasn't obvious.
And no one has defamed you.

I suppose I could claim to have been 'defamed' by what you said to me just a few posts back in post #135 (before you went back and deleted some of your original words in it), but I don't take offense that easily.

So, I hope you will have a good day, and that the weather is good wherever your life is planted today.

And if you still think there is something for you to glean from this discussion on deception, I hope you will continue to read on.

 
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Thank you, Gideon.
 
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You think to much of yourself, It's not worth that much effort.
 
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You think to much of yourself, It's not worth that much effort.

Your were given a gracious response which you chose to turn into an argument. It is a shame but it is nothing new. I'm sorry for you, really. You seem to know the Lord but I don't see His love expressed in your posts toward other Christians. Myself included. I had hoped for some common ground, it doesn't seem to be forth coming.

The parable of the frog is about that subtle deception that creeps into believers lives and they are cooked without knowing it…. their once hearts of flesh are changed and they become hard and unable to feel the consequences of their actions and words.
It is fitting here at CF… where so many Christians claiming to be Spirit-filled can not submit one to another or often even extend common courtesy. I left a few months ago bc of this kind of conversation…. I felt it not only did me no good but it encouraged others to sin bc I knew they were incapable of responding in love.
I used to ask the people on CARM to read their own posts… just go into any of their own posts and read what we read…. see if there is anything they'd like to apologize for or if their attitude was unloving…. never did any good. Something I am always surprised about. The Christians that I am close to are always ready to examine themselves. I have found it very healthy to thoroughly to re-evaluate my own behavior and repent where necessary. The Lord is so gracious to meet us at our need. I pray we are the same with others but I don't know how to respond to people who consistently respond in an unloving manner… it is why I left before.
 
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Thank you Mourning Dove, I've appreciated your responses and the thread. It is a good reminder for us all that people who know the Lord and love Him can become deceived. It reminds me to keep 'short accounts' and always be ready to take it to the Lord and ask for His grace over my heart and to change me continually. It has become easier, I don't know if its age or lots of practice… LOL. I have a good group of friends who keep me on track. We have found being brutally honest about our own hearts has helped us grow in the Lord. It has been good for our relationships and especially for our spiritual well being. It helps to have others who know the Lord to respond with truth and not just nice words…. I'd rather have the truth and be able to change my ways than to get stuck in bad habits that do nothing but produce bad fruit.
God bless, andrea
 
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So what do we 'do' ...
when we realize we've been spiritually deceived?
 
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So what do we 'do' ...
when we realize we've been spiritually deceived?

Repent and ask God for grace, real grace that lifts us out of our sin completely and puts us on the right path. In this case grace would open our eyes to the deception and keep them open for us.
 
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So what do we 'do' ...
when we realize we've been spiritually deceived?

Repent and ask God for grace, real grace that lifts us out of our sin completely and puts us on the right path. In this case grace would open our eyes to the deception and keep them open for us. Study the scriptures in the area of our deception to become full of the truth, and walk out our salvation with God.
 
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Deception happens gradually, slowly.

Or we may begin hanging out too much online in forums with Christians that are not 'like-minded'.

Yes, that's how it happened with me. I was lonely, hanging on a christian forum. I lately looked at it, there's people promoting gay marriage, sex outside of marriage. Christian? I remember I went there 2 years ago to help them, the Lord gave me a warning dream about young people jumping in a slide, like with a pool, they were jumping into it, noone warned them and I wanted to go too and then I saw what was at the end of the slide: 2 huge demons of lust and I saw two weapons of mass destruction after that, which means God's judgement. So I started to warn some people there, fell in love with someone there etcetera, came in false teaching that it is no sin before marriage. Thank God for Giver and Gideons. I jumped out of the pot. We must really watch out.
 
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So what do we 'do' ...
when we realize we've been spiritually deceived?

Repent and ask God for grace, real grace that lifts us out of our sin completely and puts us on the right path. In this case grace would open our eyes to the deception and keep them open for us. Study the scriptures in the area of our deception to become full of the truth, and walk out our salvation with God.
 
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So what do we 'do' ...
when we realize we've been spiritually deceived?

Messy said:
Repent, which is stop doing what you did. Jump out of the pot.

Repent and ask God for grace, real grace that lifts us out of our sin completely and puts us on the right path. In this case grace would open our eyes to the deception and keep them open for us.


Yes. I, too, believe that repentance is what is needed.

Repentance is begun as you have shared, Messy.
We begin repenting by turning away from those things that helped lead us into deception.

And repentance is all about grace. Couldn't agree more, jiminpa.

The deliverance out of deception can be fairly simple or more complex, depending upon the extent of the deception.

So I hope to look more deeply together at the phases one goes thru in their deliverance from deception, as one's repentance and healing is walked out in one's life.

Some lies/falsehoods are easy to just drop. And from them, one can easily move on, as God continues to lead in the direction of truth.

But sometimes much has been invested in the deception that one has been absorbed into. The repentance process can then work abit slower for those leaving a deep deception.

I will start by saying that I believe 'the deceived one' has much for which to be grateful to God, when God has opened their eyes to truth. God is The Revealer of truth. When He gives it, it is 'blessing'.

(Can I get an amen, anyone? )

I really enjoy hearing all your thoughts on the subject and do welcome them as I am no expert on this and learning, too. Granted, deception is not an easy subject to address, but one I do think is needful at times.
 
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Thank you all, for your participation. Was fun, was challenging. And I learned some things, too!

God bless to all!

Agape,
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