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Overwhelming Evidence for an Old Earth

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I guess anything that does not cost money would be like a game to you.
That is fine. We just use this word in different ways. According to you, I am playing games for all my life.
It would be a big game in talking about the age of the earth.
 
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No, you can not.

Sure you can. In five seconds Google provided me with the following:




I can't post links yet.
 
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I guess anything that does not cost money would be like a game to you.
That is fine. We just use this word in different ways. According to you, I am playing games for all my life.
It would be a big game in talking about the age of the earth.

No, anybody who posts in a run-around and evasive manner such as you have done with this topic is playing games. I have no idea if you have been doing this all of your life.
 
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No, anybody who posts in a run-around and evasive manner such as you have done with this topic is playing games. I have no idea if you have been doing this all of your life.

An abstractive comment is not evasive. It does not mean a game. Not everyone talks like an engineer.
 
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No. The ads are looking for expertise, they are not titles.

I would suggest that you either need new glasses or need to brush up on your reading skills as you should have seen that a title including "Petrology" was plainly included in one of the postings. The use of capital letters shows that this is an intended title.

"The Department of Geology at Baylor University invites applications for a tenure-track Assistant Professor in Mineralogy or Petrology, beginning August of 2012. Applicants must hold a Ph.D."
 
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An abstractive comment is not evasive. It does not mean a game. Not everyone talks like an engineer.

Like I said, feel free to keep playing a game regarding this "abstract" idea that you broached but refuse to develop further. But don't expect anybody else to care whether or not you actually post anything remotely resembling a coherent argument.
 
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No. The title is "Assistant Professor". There is nothing to stop this person to teach other courses than min/pet. Through time, this person might not even teach petrology but teach something like tectonics.

I never know academics is such a strange animal to an engineer.
 
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Like I said, feel free to keep playing a game regarding this "abstract" idea that you broached but refuse to develop further. But don't expect anybody else to care whether or not you actually post anything remotely resembling a coherent argument.

I did not refuse to do anything. It is you who do not accept my argument (and did not provide any reason for that). If so, why should I continue?
 
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I did not refuse to do anything. It is you who do not accept my argument (and did not provide any reason for that). If so, why should I continue?
Your 'argument' is based on an assumption that has neither evidential backing or the possibility of evidential backing. You're asking him to accept something that is entirely ad hoc just to make you happy. If the first step in a hypothesis is 'accept this unfalsifiable assumption or it doesn't work', then you're not participating in science.
 
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Well, academics may be a strange animal to an engineer or an academic, but I don't think either of us needs to worry about that problem considering that it appears that neither of these titles could be correctly attributed to either of us.

I think you should contact Professor Jon Blundy at the University of Bristol and tell him that his title of Professor of Petrology is wrong since he also teaches first year students in general geology. You probably should also contact Dr Stearns A. Morse at the University of Mass. and tell him that his title of Research Professor of Petrology is wrong even though he has held the title at the University of Massachusetts for the past 14 years. You would have thought that somebody would have corrected this error by now.
 
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I am not sure. People may do strange things. But I doubt those are the titles on their contract (do they need a contract?). If true, it would certainly be very strange. Anyway, I don't have that. However, if that makes me not to be a petrologist, it would be very strange too. In fact, I really don't care if I am a petrologist, or am called a petrologist. I study rocks. That would be enough. If nobody called me a petrologist, I will call it myself, as one of my titles.

I suggest you quit this issue and, if you like to, go back to the topic of the OP.
 
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Anyone here take this verse seriously?

II Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Literally or metaphorically, how do you understand it? Do you think this verse bear any meaning to the "age" of the earth?
 
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I think the most important consideration is whether or not anybody pays or funds you to study rocks.
 
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I think the most important consideration is whether or not anybody pays or funds you to study rocks.

Partially true.

I will study rocks even after I retired. God creates rocks. They are wonderful. The key is to know how to study rocks after the retirement. Would you still have chance to interpret new (or old) geological data after your retirement? I don't think so. If geology is only a job to you, that is too bad.
 
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We have been discussing formal titles. I would still maintain that a formal title usually is applied when one is paying or funding somebody for their work. The key for you is probably getting somebody to pay you to do geology now.

I was involved in the sudy of geology for many years before anybody paid me for my knowledge and abilities in the subject. But I never called myself a geologist until I was paid for doing geology. I originally studied it because I liked doing so, and not to get a job as my principal objective. When I did my undergraduate work there were only 30 majors at my university. Then OPEC and the oil embargo started and two years later there were about 250 majors. I started grad school thinking that there were still few jobs out there, I had not researched the situation for once again I just wanted to study for the love of the science. Then I discovered that there was a great demand for geologists and had multiple job offers upon getting my MS degree. You can tell those who are in it for the money, they fall away in "down" times or change majors.

I study geology on my own time after work, in areas that have nothing to do with what I do at work. I suspect I will continue to do so after I retire as I keep up with it on my own time as it is.

I admire people who are interested in geology as a hobby, as you appear to be.
 
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