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Fish and Bread

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So, I've found Zoroastrianism to be of mild interest for years. Not interesting as in wanting to actually become a Zoroastrian (Which is good, because these days you have to be literally born into it to be recognized as a true Zoroastrian- no conversions allowed, unless you want to start your own Protestant version of Zoroastrianism ;) ), but interesting in an intellectual sense.

I mean, this was the official religion of the Persian Empire for a thousand years or so ending around 600AD, and so few people are aware of it relative to other contemporary religions of the time it was from. A lot of Christian concepts arguably come from Zoroastrianism (or at least Zoroastrianism had similar beliefs first by coincidence ;) ), and many of the early Christian converts would have almost certainly been Zoroastrians given where the Persian Empire was located and where the early Christians were. Yet, really, we have very little in the way of accounts of the two religions interacting, and they aren't mentioned in the New Testament aside from possibly the three "wise men" from "the orient", who may well have been Zoroastrians if they were true historical figures.

So, there's a little mystery there as to why this doesn't play a bigger role in Christian history or just history in general. There's no mystery as to why you don't hear about them in a modern context, though- there are only around 7,000 of them left in the world, and they almost all live in India.

*Anyway*, I was reading a fiction book on the ole Kindle, and it mentioned something I either hadn't heard about or had forgotten about- Zurvanism, which is an ancient branch of Zoroastrianism that no longer exists (Yes, I do read weird fiction books. ;) This was even science fiction. I am probably the only one who found the chapter where they wind up with a mystery on their hands about a group that may practice Zurvanism to be an exciting twist ;) ).

More about it here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zurvanism

Interesting, no?

Yes, I realize this only marginally relates to the forum topic. Hence, the "OT" in the subject line. But I figured more people would be interested in it here than over on a music forum I occasionally frequent or something like that. ;)
 
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Thank you for that, it was an interesting read. I finished a fiction book recently in which Mithraism played a part and it got me thinking about these religions that were popular during that time
What book were you reading in which Zurvanism appeared?
 
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What book were you reading in which Zurvanism appeared?

It's called The Day After Never: A Time Travel Adventure by Nathan Van Coops. It's the third book of what right now is at a trilogy (Though I don't think it's necessarily going to end at three books, I think that's just what's written so far), which begins with a book that is being offered free in Kindle format at Amazon.com right now, called In Times Like These.

I should probably mention that, while some science fiction can actually be really great from a literary point of view and break people's genre impressions of the genre, these aren't those books. :) These are more of a guilty pleasure kind of thing. The writing is fairly simple and at first I started off wondering if they were aimed at a more young adult audience. As it progressed, it became clear that they weren't, but they are definitely in the "fun read" genre more than the "trying to break new ground and offer keen insights about life" genre.

By the end, I was actually really enjoying the first book. The second one was okay (Without spoiling too much, it was a very different setup from the first book with a limited number of common characters). With the third one, I haven't gotten far enough into to really say, but it seems to be straggling the line between really good and just "alright" so far- there are some unexpected moments of humor in there that shine, though, in the early going.

Anyway, I like them, but I did want to throw a caveat in there that they aren't (and don't seem intended to be) fine literature, but just kind of, well, time travel adventures, so to speak. :) Fairly breezy reads. I kind of like that genre when it's done right, and the author seems to be able to handle it pretty well.
 
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