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Matthew Twentyfour

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In your opinion, when is a person saved. Are you saying a person is not saved when he profess Christ as savior, believe in his heart and accept Christ's gift of salvation?

Two people profess, believed and accepted Christ as their savior as new Christians. What makes one person more real than the other? Is only one of them saved and not both?

Then when is a person actually saved? Is it when he's a genuine Christian? Is it when he's a real Christian? Is it when he's a true Christian? Is it when he refuses the mark of the beast? I'm using the words you used.

Post a scripture of when a person is saved?
 
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First, I don't know who God has saved and who God has not.

The Bible says that IF they have the Holy Spirit of God, sent by the Son of God that they are saved BECAUSE the Son of God has forgiven their sins.

Romans 8:16

The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, 17and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.

I understand that you are trying to figure out these scenarios. My stand is and has always been that the indwelling Holy Spirit within someone, the Holy Spirit sent to that person after the Son of God has forgiven their sins, is what God's Word tells us that is the indicator of who is a child of God and who is not.

The determination is made by God. Anyone can say they are of God. Whether that be a Klu Klux Klan member or anyone else, we do not know who the Lord has placed His Holy Spirit within.
 
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