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Perfect. Amen. Amin. Justo. Exactamundo. Right on. Nail on the head. etc...
 
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That was the best "scholasticism in a nutshell" I have ever encountered. Thanks.
 
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The excommunication was pretty much mutual. The Patriarch also stalled the papal messenger for several months as well. Neither side is entirely innocent.

Not to defend the actions of Patriarch Michael, but Humbert was the one who excommunicated first. That is accurate.

The actual events of 1054, though, don't have much to do with the schism. They were the tipping point, but the issues at stake at the time have little to do with the underlying differences.
 
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This is pretty much correct. When one looks at the actual historical events leading to these excommunications, in reality they were uncanonical phantom excommunications not affecting anyone, nor recognized by any side. In 1965 when patriarch and pope lifted the anathemas and excommunications, in reality it was political theater with no substance. They lifted something that never existed in the first place!
 
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