• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Original Sin, I was wrong.

Mar 8, 2011
633
7
The Corn Desert
✟23,319.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Now you should understand my question about your presuppositions.

Oz

No, I don't. I didn't take presuppositions of my current views TO scripture or subject matter. I came away FROM scripture with my current views. And they remain subject to change according to truth revealed and my correction.

I held to the Original Sin doctrine for many years like everyone else. After being lost because of orthodox Godhead doctrine, I decided to work through all the major doctrines myself in deep prayer and fasting. Orthodox Godhead doctrine formulation is inadequate. Original Sin is inadequate. The various dichotomies like Calvinism and Arminianism are inadequate. The entirety of orthodoxy has been Ideologized to a point of indoctrination beyond Theology.

Why have you not engaged any subject matter? And why don't you address your own presuppositions of Original Sin?

Since you're pressed for time, just give two paragraphs sometime in the next two days of exactly what happened to Adam and specifically how that was conveyed to all of mankind. I generally agree THAT it happened. I want a vehement advocate of the Original Sin doctrine to clearly delineated the "how".

If you are an imminent PhD writing a dissertation on Jesus as a man, this should be a simple matter. This is what He came to lay down His life (psuche) for. Don't we need to know what a "sin nature" is? Don't we need to know "how" we are by nature the children of wrath?

I've spent 13 years digging it all out of the Word. I'd like to hear something besides Augustinian inference from someone else.
 
Upvote 0