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lady4theallmighty said:
Can someone explain the different views of the Origin of Life and End Times? I was going to "google" them, but thought I would seek some fellowship and ask all of your idea's about them.

Thank you and have a very blessed weekend!:)
Hi, I don't know the views of the Orgin of Life, except that is in the bible which you probably know, God created Adam and then from Adam created Eve, and we are all descendents of Adam and Eve. Some don't believe this, but this is what I believe.

The end is a little out of order in my mind, so maybe I shouldn't write it. I hope this has helped, and I'm sure more will respond. Blessings, Tapero
 
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tapero said:
Hi, I don't know the views of the Orgin of Life, except that is in the bible which you probably know, God created Adam and then from Adam created Eve, and we are all descendents of Adam and Eve. Some don't believe this, but this is what I believe.

The end is a little out of order in my mind, so maybe I shouldn't write it. I hope this has helped, and I'm sure more will respond. Blessings, Tapero

The reason we are descendants of Adam & Eve
Is because they were the first people on the earth
That God put there!
 
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lady4theallmighty said:
Can someone explain the different views of the Origin of Life and End Times? I was going to "google" them, but thought I would seek some fellowship and ask all of your idea's about them.

Thank you and have a very blessed weekend!:)

No problem, I'll try my best. But be advised that I am no expert, being a relatively new Christian myself (coming up on three years soon). Now regarding the origin of life view, here are the ones that I'm familiar with.

Young Earth Creationism: This is the belief that the earth was created as told in the Bible, and that the universe is 5,700 years old. The number 5,700 is based on adding up the geneologies in the book of Genesis and the books of the Chronicles.

Old Earth Creationism: This view also supposes that the Biblical creation account is literally true, however it accepts the age of the earth as 4.2 billion years old (as computed by scientists). This view assumes that the six days of creation are not six 24-hour days, but refer to an unspecified period of time. It also assumes that the geneologies in Genesis and the Chronicles are not complete. Actually, this is not so far-fetched, since we know that the geneologies of the Lord Jesus in Matthew and Luke are abridged. This is the view that I hold to.

Gap Theory: This is almost the same as young earth creationism, except it supposes that there is a "gap" of unspecified time between Genesis 1:2 and 1:3. Thus, gap theorists believe that the earth was originally cursed by Satan, and then cleansed by God. It is a means of explaining why science tells us that the earth is older than 5,700 years.

Theistic Evolution: This is just what it sounds like. Theistic evolutionists believe in the scientifically determined age of the earth, and in biological evolution. But they maintain that God guided the process of evolution. They hold that the creation account of the Prophet Moses is a figurative and spiritual account which is meant to explain original sin, the purpose for our creation, and the need for our redemption by Christ. Some theistic evolutionists believe that humans evolved from lower organisms. Other theistic evolutionists (such as Roman Catholics) believe that although evolution can explain the creation of both humans and other life, at some point God took aside Adam and imbuded him with a soul.

And now for the end time views.

There are three views on a certain event called the millenium.

Premillenialism: In the book of Revelation, it says that after Christ returns to judge the earth, there will be a thousand year period (or millennium) for which Satan is bound, and during which the nations will live in peace, under Jesus Christ who rules as the King of Jerusalem, with the church as his queen. Premillennialism states that this is a literal reign. According to premillennialism, the Second Advent of Christ before the millennium in order to physically rule the earth. I hold to this belief. Now you might ask, how could Christ not return before the millennium, if he is to be the King of Jerusalem during the millennium? That leads into the next theory.

Postmillennialism: This is the theory that the millennium as described in Revelation is figurative for a time during which the Gospel will have gone forth to all the nations, and during which the church will live in great peace. The Bible describes Christ's judgment of the earth before the millennium, so postmillennialists understand this to be figurative for a time during which God will wipe out evil in the earth by means of his servants in the church. Postmillennialists believe that the Second Advent of Christ will happen after the millennium.

Amillennialism: This is the belief that there is no literal 1,000 years of peace for the church, but that the judgment of the world by Christ, and the millennium are figurative for Christ's Second Advent.

There are also three views on an event called the rapture.

Pretribulation Rapture: In the Bible it says that at some unspecified time, Jesus Christ will descend and raise the church to himself. It also says that there will be a period of seven years in the end-times during which the anti-Christ will reign (the "Tribulation"). Pretribulationism states that Jesus Christ will rapture the church before the Tribulation, so that the church will not have to suffer through this.

Posttribulation Rapture: This is the belief that Christians will have to suffer through the Tribulation, and that Christ will rapture the church after the end of the seven years. This is the view that I hold to.

Midtribulation Rapture: The belief that the rapture will occur sometime during the tribulation.

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Well, this is my best summary of the various origin and end-time theories. If anyone more knowledgable than me notices a mistake, please feel free to correct it. I hope I was of some help.
 
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arunma said:
No problem, I'll try my best. But be advised that I am no expert, being a relatively new Christian myself (coming up on three years soon). Now regarding the origin of life view, here are the ones that I'm familiar with.

Young Earth Creationism: This is the belief that the earth was created as told in the Bible, and that the universe is 5,700 years old. The number 5,700 is based on adding up the geneologies in the book of Genesis and the books of the Chronicles.

Old Earth Creationism: This view also supposes that the Biblical creation account is literally true, however it accepts the age of the earth as 4.2 billion years old (as computed by scientists). This view assumes that the six days of creation are not six 24-hour days, but refer to an unspecified period of time. It also assumes that the geneologies in Genesis and the Chronicles are not complete. Actually, this is not so far-fetched, since we know that the geneologies of the Lord Jesus in Matthew and Luke are abridged. This is the view that I hold to.

Gap Theory: This is almost the same as young earth creationism, except it supposes that there is a "gap" of unspecified time between Genesis 1:2 and 1:3. Thus, gap theorists believe that the earth was originally cursed by Satan, and then cleansed by God. It is a means of explaining why science tells us that the earth is older than 5,700 years.

Theistic Evolution: This is just what it sounds like. Theistic evolutionists believe in the scientifically determined age of the earth, and in biological evolution. But they maintain that God guided the process of evolution. They hold that the creation account of the Prophet Moses is a figurative and spiritual account which is meant to explain original sin, the purpose for our creation, and the need for our redemption by Christ. Some theistic evolutionists believe that humans evolved from lower organisms. Other theistic evolutionists (such as Roman Catholics) believe that although evolution can explain the creation of both humans and other life, at some point God took aside Adam and imbuded him with a soul.

And now for the end time views.

There are three views on a certain event called the millenium.

Premillenialism: In the book of Revelation, it says that after Christ returns to judge the earth, there will be a thousand year period (or millennium) for which Satan is bound, and during which the nations will live in peace, under Jesus Christ who rules as the King of Jerusalem, with the church as his queen. Premillennialism states that this is a literal reign. According to premillennialism, the Second Advent of Christ before the millennium in order to physically rule the earth. I hold to this belief. Now you might ask, how could Christ not return before the millennium, if he is to be the King of Jerusalem during the millennium? That leads into the next theory.

Postmillennialism: This is the theory that the millennium as described in Revelation is figurative for a time during which the Gospel will have gone forth to all the nations, and during which the church will live in great peace. The Bible describes Christ's judgment of the earth before the millennium, so postmillennialists understand this to be figurative for a time during which God will wipe out evil in the earth by means of his servants in the church. Postmillennialists believe that the Second Advent of Christ will happen after the millennium.

Amillennialism: This is the belief that there is no literal 1,000 years of peace for the church, but that the judgment of the world by Christ, and the millennium are figurative for Christ's Second Advent.

There are also three views on an event called the rapture.

Pretribulation Rapture: In the Bible it says that at some unspecified time, Jesus Christ will descend and raise the church to himself. It also says that there will be a period of seven years in the end-times during which the anti-Christ will reign (the "Tribulation"). Pretribulationism states that Jesus Christ will rapture the church before the Tribulation, so that the church will not have to suffer through this.

Posttribulation Rapture: This is the belief that Christians will have to suffer through the Tribulation, and that Christ will rapture the church after the end of the seven years. This is the view that I hold to.

Midtribulation Rapture: The belief that the rapture will occur sometime during the tribulation.

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Well, this is my best summary of the various origin and end-time theories. If anyone more knowledgable than me notices a mistake, please feel free to correct it. I hope I was of some help.
Okay wow, this is exactly what I was looking for. I really appreciate your response. I have a few questions, but I'm going to print this out and read it again before I ask. Do you mind if I PM you with questions?

Thank you to everyone who responded. I hope this posts will help others!

Blessings to all of you!
 
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lady4theallmighty said:
Okay wow, this is exactly what I was looking for. I really appreciate your response. I have a few questions, but I'm going to print this out and read it again before I ask. Do you mind if I PM you with questions?

No problem at all, I'm just glad to be of service. By the way, when describing premillenialism, I just noticed that I wrote a very poorly worded sentence. I had said, "According to premillennialism, the Second Advent of Christ before the millennium in order to physically rule the earth." What I meant to say is "According to premillennialism, Christ will return before the millennium in order to physically rule the earth.

Sorry about that!
 
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ChamomileFriend said:
wow arunma, than you so much for this info! it was very helpful.:thumbsup:

also, thank you lady4theallmighty, for asking the question before i even got here ^_^

Again, no problem at all, I'm just glad that all that gibberish was helpful to you guys.
 
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I just saw this and it is very interesting. I have thought that the gap theory seemed to make sense in the past. Recently a brother in our church who is, in my opinion, one of those genius IQ types who lives in a world most of us can barely comprehend, shared some theories with my husband and I that also sounded interesting. One thing I remember he shared was something about the atmosphere of the earth having changed - like it used to be thicker or something and somehow because of that it throws off carbon dating because the rate of decay is different at different atmospheric pressures.
Have you ever heard of something like that?
 
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christianmomof3 said:
I just saw this and it is very interesting. I have thought that the gap theory seemed to make sense in the past. Recently a brother in our church who is, in my opinion, one of those genius IQ types who lives in a world most of us can barely comprehend, shared some theories with my husband and I that also sounded interesting. One thing I remember he shared was something about the atmosphere of the earth having changed - like it used to be thicker or something and somehow because of that it throws off carbon dating because the rate of decay is different at different atmospheric pressures.
Have you ever heard of something like that?

Actually, carbon dating is only effective to about 10,000 years. When dating things that are older than this, scientists use different radioisotopes, such as polonium. If no one minds me making a shameless plug for old earth creationism, I found an interesting site, written by a believing Christian and old earth creationist. Here's the address:

http://www.godandscience.org/

He subscribes to the Big Bang theory and to the scientifically determined age of the earth, but rejects evolution, and he believes that the Bible is God's inerrent word. He provides arguments directly from Scripture to support his creation theory, as well as arguments from science. Some people will agree, and others will disagree. And I think it's OK for us to have different views on the issue. But I also think that this is a helpful place for Christians to be more informed about the old earth theory.
 
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arunma said:
Actually, carbon dating is only effective to about 10,000 years. When dating things that are older than this, scientists use different radioisotopes, such as polonium. If no one minds me making a shameless plug for old earth creationism, I found an interesting site, written by a believing Christian and old earth creationist. Here's the address:

http://www.godandscience.org/

He subscribes to the Big Bang theory and to the scientifically determined age of the earth, but rejects evolution, and he believes that the Bible is God's inerrent word. He provides arguments directly from Scripture to support his creation theory, as well as arguments from science. Some people will agree, and others will disagree. And I think it's OK for us to have different views on the issue. But I also think that this is a helpful place for Christians to be more informed about the old earth theory.

This is a great website, Ive been going through it for about a week. The website has good answers to many often asked questions by athiests, for example: didn't God create evil? and What happens to people who die without having the oppertunity to hear the gospel?
 
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