you presented a biased source
I was merely trying to point that out
it seems that some of the victims were not Christian
one of the victims the author says "would probably not want to be remembered as a Christian martyr"
and points to the fact that the person has posted on Facebook about progressive political issues and did not talk about religion
... that seems like a stretch to assume that a person was or was not a Christian, just because they do not talk about it a lot?
one of them it is reported that "he would probably call himself an agnostic"
well did he describe himself that way?
did his close friends and family describe him that way?
or is this just based on his facebook?
another one made a joke about Jehovah's Witness coming to the door
ok?
I think everyone has made jokes about that
the article is written with a clear bias by someone who calls claims to be "friendly" but is really just a poor journalist who has more interest in advancing a world view then in finding the truth.
So this just came to my attention. Words fail, but very intriguing...
http://tucson.com/news/national/ore...cle_b2fe3334-4762-59fe-9af5-c154f00d77c2.html
It's always good to be on the lookout for slant and quote mines, but on the face of it, this stuff looks pretty straight, IMHO. Hard to see how the quotes could mean anything other than what they appear to mean.Be careful.... The media has merely ripped this from the mother's online postings, and likely put their spin on it. We don't know the context. We still don't know much about the mother, except for the most incriminating. You think the media is going to put something she did good out there? The good stuff wouldn't increase the ratings...
Agreed. That's why I merely said, "Be careful." Also, I like "quote mines." I'll have to use that one...It's always good to be on the lookout for slant and quote mines, but on the face of it, this stuff looks pretty straight, IMHO. Hard to see how the quotes could mean anything other than what they appear to mean.
I stand to be corrected, but if she didn't mean them the way it looks, some reasonable explanation is warranted.
A shot in the head is normally a death sentence.Really? "3 Hot's and a cot" for life is equivalent to dying slowly from multiple gunshot wounds to the torso?
So he was raised by a gun enthusiast who may of passed on that enthusiasm.So this just came to my attention. Words fail, but very intriguing...
http://tucson.com/news/national/ore...cle_b2fe3334-4762-59fe-9af5-c154f00d77c2.html
Except that 99.999999% of the "American gun culture" doesn't shoot people.It's the American gun culture which breeds this kind of behavior. As I suspected, this killer was a gun lover too.
According to you. OK.But it inspires that .000001% that does. American gun culture is sick and it keeps getting sicker.
But it inspires that .000001% that does. American gun culture is sick and it keeps getting sicker.
That's a rather illogical and unhealthy way to view things you don't like.
About 1% of Catholic Priests molested children, does that give me the right to hate all Catholic clergy and consider their calling a sick perversion?
Also for the record, it's unappealing to your side to be overtly emotional and lacking in reason. I'm for some moderate increased restriction and background checking on fire arms, but when I see people like you who blatantly demonize gun owners I sympathize far more with the gun owners.
Nice analogy. Because of those Catholic priests and because I train altar servers and volunteer with St. Vincent de Paul I've had to get fingerprinted, have a background check with the FBI, and sign an attestation that I have read and understand the Diocese's policy on sexual abuse. I have to submit to the background check every three years.
Where's that kind of accountability with the gun lovers?
This why I take such an extreme position. For one, I've witnessed far too many displays of irresponsible gun ownership and for another, while the bodies are piling up, gun lovers have failed to self-regulate nor accept any culpability. I haven't molested anyone and I wasn't even Catholic at the time most of the abuse happened. Why then should I have to submit to fingerprinting and background checks while persons with evil motives can build up their arsenals unchecked?
It's the American gun culture which breeds this kind of behavior. As I suspected, this killer was a gun lover too.
So this just came to my attention. Words fail, but very intriguing...
http://tucson.com/news/national/ore...cle_b2fe3334-4762-59fe-9af5-c154f00d77c2.html
Also for the record, it's unappealing to your side to be overtly emotional and lacking in reason. I'm for some moderate increased restriction and background checking on fire arms, but when I see people like you who blatantly demonize gun owners I sympathize far more with the gun owners.
Except, of course, that these things did happen, they just weren't as publicised.What is the American gun culture? Considering that Americans have ALWAYS had guns, that everyone I knew growing up had guns, including us and my grandmother, and this kind of thing did not happen.That would point to it being something other than guns.
The guns have always been the constant. What has changed is the contempt that young men have for their society to where they are willing to commit random mass murder for any number of obscure personal reasons.What is the American gun culture? Considering that Americans have ALWAYS had guns, that everyone I knew growing up had guns, including us and my grandmother, and this kind of thing did not happen.That would point to it being something other than guns.
Any number of regulations and controls will not do a thing to stop random acts of violence, which by their very nature are unpredicatable.I'm, required to have liability insurance on my car in case it's use, either by accident or malice, causes harm to another person. That way the victims of said harm, victims through no fault of their own, can be compensated for their loss.
Can someone here explain to me the objection to requiring I carry Liability Insurance on my firearm for the same reason?
Do people here really object to victims of Gun violence being compensated for their pain, suffering and Loss?
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