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Oregon Rep. Mike Nearman booted from House for planning armed protest.
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<blockquote data-quote="com7fy8" data-source="post: 76012538" data-attributes="member: 331347"><p>Thank you, [USER=306134]@TLK Valentine[/USER] . . . now I have read some reporting about this. </p><p></p><p>If the quotes of him are correct, he on purpose let people into the Capitol of Oregon without their being checked for weapons, and at least one person entering used bear mace on police. For whatever reason, that sort of stuff is not being charged as terrorism. It to me seems like trying to destabilize a present government which is in power, using force and weapons. So, to me it's some form of terrorism. But this is not new, in the United States whose earlier European colonists used bloodshed during the Revolution and who reportedly used terror and germ warfare of smallpox against native peoples of the land.</p><p></p><p>And the article says Representative Bill Post was a close colleague of his; and Bill says he lied to him about if there was more video evidence. But then that video showing the planning showed up on . . . yes . . . Youtube. But there is nothing I have read which shows that he knew about that video which I understand was filmed during his meeting for the planning.</p><p></p><p>So, I am not clear about if he knew of that video, though.</p><p></p><p>He could have known or assumed someone in the meeting would record it. But this does not mean he knew it would get out, therefore be evidence.</p><p></p><p>In any case . . . whether I get caught or not > I am clear that if I betray trust, including by lying to honorable and trustworthy people . . . betraying people is not loving them. So, if I can betray trust, I need to pray about if I know how to love, or not, the way God has us loving people. To be unable to genuinely love while doing things is a very dire consequence of committing myself to betraying trust.</p><p></p><p>And we see how the Republican Party was able to advance Richard Nixon to the office of President. And Richard reportedly proved to be a betrayer of trust.</p><p></p><p>So . . . even though I do not buy what ones in the Democratic Party are doing, I also am aware that a number of Republicans might not be functional in God's love and honesty. And Jesus says, <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #ff0000">"without Me you can do nothing"</span></span></span>, in John 15:5.</p><p></p><p>But it seems popular for ones of each party to say to the other > because you are wrong, I am right.</p><p></p><p>not quite</p><p></p><p>So, Mr. Nearman discovered the consequence of getting caught. But I can't assume if the ones voting against him are clean, themselves. He had been serving for some time, before that happened; how could he last that long, without ones realizing something was wrong with him???? By the way, Richard Nixon made it to the office of President before he got caught. Are cases like this, then, the tip of an iceberg of the character of various Republicans who could promote such people to their tip??</p><p></p><p>At least one Democrat has made it to the White House, yet it is reported he was a serial adulterer, yet is claimed to have been a great president.</p><p></p><p>If voters can't tell the difference, why? My own character can have me in darkness . . . not in God's light . . . so I can't see people right.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #ff8000">"'Do not judge according to appearance, </span><span style="color: #ff00ff">but judge with righteous judgment.'"</span></span></span> (John 7:24)</p><p></p><p>Make sure with God about whom to trust. The American fifty-percent divorce rate might be evidence that many Americans do not make sure with God about whom they trust, including for marriage. These include ones who claim the Bible, as far as I know.</p><p></p><p>So, a consequence of reading this is I am reminded of my own failure. And a consequence needs to be how we pray for him and others and ourselves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="com7fy8, post: 76012538, member: 331347"] Thank you, [USER=306134]@TLK Valentine[/USER] . . . now I have read some reporting about this. If the quotes of him are correct, he on purpose let people into the Capitol of Oregon without their being checked for weapons, and at least one person entering used bear mace on police. For whatever reason, that sort of stuff is not being charged as terrorism. It to me seems like trying to destabilize a present government which is in power, using force and weapons. So, to me it's some form of terrorism. But this is not new, in the United States whose earlier European colonists used bloodshed during the Revolution and who reportedly used terror and germ warfare of smallpox against native peoples of the land. And the article says Representative Bill Post was a close colleague of his; and Bill says he lied to him about if there was more video evidence. But then that video showing the planning showed up on . . . yes . . . Youtube. But there is nothing I have read which shows that he knew about that video which I understand was filmed during his meeting for the planning. So, I am not clear about if he knew of that video, though. He could have known or assumed someone in the meeting would record it. But this does not mean he knew it would get out, therefore be evidence. In any case . . . whether I get caught or not > I am clear that if I betray trust, including by lying to honorable and trustworthy people . . . betraying people is not loving them. So, if I can betray trust, I need to pray about if I know how to love, or not, the way God has us loving people. To be unable to genuinely love while doing things is a very dire consequence of committing myself to betraying trust. And we see how the Republican Party was able to advance Richard Nixon to the office of President. And Richard reportedly proved to be a betrayer of trust. So . . . even though I do not buy what ones in the Democratic Party are doing, I also am aware that a number of Republicans might not be functional in God's love and honesty. And Jesus says, [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5][COLOR=#ff0000]"without Me you can do nothing"[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT], in John 15:5. But it seems popular for ones of each party to say to the other > because you are wrong, I am right. not quite So, Mr. Nearman discovered the consequence of getting caught. But I can't assume if the ones voting against him are clean, themselves. He had been serving for some time, before that happened; how could he last that long, without ones realizing something was wrong with him???? By the way, Richard Nixon made it to the office of President before he got caught. Are cases like this, then, the tip of an iceberg of the character of various Republicans who could promote such people to their tip?? At least one Democrat has made it to the White House, yet it is reported he was a serial adulterer, yet is claimed to have been a great president. If voters can't tell the difference, why? My own character can have me in darkness . . . not in God's light . . . so I can't see people right. [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5][COLOR=#ff8000]"'Do not judge according to appearance, [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff00ff]but judge with righteous judgment.'"[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] (John 7:24) Make sure with God about whom to trust. The American fifty-percent divorce rate might be evidence that many Americans do not make sure with God about whom they trust, including for marriage. These include ones who claim the Bible, as far as I know. So, a consequence of reading this is I am reminded of my own failure. And a consequence needs to be how we pray for him and others and ourselves. [/QUOTE]
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