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miknik5 · Oct 16, 2016

GOD really said!

And THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS is THE SPIRIT IF PROPHECY

Every word spoke and pointed to JESUS
And GOD, knowing our limitedness in humanity provided by HIS GRACE visible signs and Lower representations ever and always pointing to HIS SON

Colter · Oct 16, 2016

miknik5 said:
You imply that "GOD did not really say" thereby calling the TESTIMONY/TRUTH of GOD speculation

I don't belive God wrote the Bible books, I belive holy men wrote it.

miknik5 · Oct 16, 2016

Colter said:
I don't belive God wrote the Bible books, I belive holy men wrote it.

Then I guess you do not believe that the testimony of JESUS is the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY?

How were these holy men even able to write down and suggest to other men seeking to know the ONE TRUTH of GOD that maybe GOD meant and said this but we are only speculating?

Colter · Oct 16, 2016

miknik5 said:
Then I guess you do not believe that the testimony of JESUS is the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY?

How were these holy men even able to write down and suggest to other men seeking to know the ONE TRUTH of GOD that maybe GOD meant and said this but we are only speculating?

Some of the prophets had visions of a coming Son, he came. The Holy men wrote books for spiritual instruction. They culled the wisdom of the ages.

I belive in Jesus to the extent that his words were rightly remembered.

JacksBratt · Oct 16, 2016

Colter said:
I don't belive God wrote the Bible books, I belive holy men wrote it.

If you don't believe that the Holy Bible, the KJV and several other translations of the similar book of the Old and New Testaments, were God breathed, then what on this earth does any of it matter? What do you have as a hope? What do you found your belief on?

The Bible is not the words of men. If it was then we would all be without salvation, without a creator, without hope.

Colter · Oct 16, 2016

JacksBratt said:
If you don't believe that the Holy Bible, the KJV and several other translations of the similar book of the Old and New Testaments, were God breathed, then what on this earth does any of it matter? What do you have as a hope? What do you found your belief on?

The Bible is not the words of men. If it was then we would all be without salvation, without a creator, without hope.

There is a lot of spiritual truth and wisdom in the Bible books, as well as other books, that we can apply to our relationship with the Living God. God is spirit and a sincer heart will be guided by the inner spirit if we ask.

miknik5 · Oct 16, 2016

The "inner spirit"
Meaning your own?

And not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST?

(Who, by the way, was in all the prophets)

Colter · Oct 16, 2016

miknik5 said:
The "inner spirit"
Meaning your own?

And not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST?

(Who, by the way, was in all the prophets)

Gods spirit is in us.

JacksBratt · Oct 16, 2016

Colter said:
There is a lot of spiritual truth and wisdom in the Bible books, as well as other books, that we can apply to our relationship with the Living God. God is spirit and a sincer heart will be guided by the inner spirit if we ask.

There are lots of books that contain wisdom and knowledge. There are lots of books that we can use to guide us in life, look after finances, learn jobs and have better relationships.

However, there is only one book, the Holy Bible, that is an actual message from our creator. It was written by men, yes, but it is the the only book of books where every word is inspired by God for His creation to know Him and what He did and what He plans to do.

Can you name even one other book that was inspired by, God breathed and God's word? Just one?

Colter · Oct 16, 2016

JacksBratt said:
There are lots of books that contain wisdom and knowledge. There are lots of books that we can use to guide us in life, look after finances, learn jobs and have better relationships.

However, there is only one book, the Holy Bible, that is an actual message from our creator. It was written by men, yes, but it is the the only book of books where every word is inspired by God for His creation to know Him and what He did and what He plans to do.

Can you name even one other book that was inspired by, God breathed and God's word? Just one?

God writes his truth on our hearts. Some men have then written that in books as they understand it. But God doesn't write books. Jesus didn't write a book.

JacksBratt · Oct 16, 2016

Colter said:
God writes his truth on our hearts. Some men have then written that in books as they understand it. But God doesn't write books. Jesus didn't write a book.

God wrote the book through men. Jesus is woven throughout it. Jesus is the word.

True enough, we have the knowledge of right and wrong and the law, written in our hearts, nobody will be without excuse. But that is just the tip of the iceberg.

You didn't answer my question....

JacksBratt said:
Can you name even one other book that was inspired by, God breathed and God's word? Just one?

Can you now?

Colter · Oct 16, 2016

JacksBratt said:
God wrote the book through men. Jesus is woven throughout it. Jesus is the word.

True enough, we have the knowledge of right and wrong and the law, written in our hearts, nobody will be without excuse. But that is just the tip of the iceberg.

You didn't answer my question....

Can you now?

There are no books written by God to begin with. That's not meant to insult your faith in the many truths within the current 66 book list. The truths are inspired is a sence yes, but human minds organized the narratives etc.

JacksBratt · Oct 16, 2016

Colter said:
There are no books written by God to begin with. That's not meant to insult your faith in the many truths within the current 66 book list. The truths are inspired is a sence yes, but human minds organized the narratives etc.

Human minds? They put this together? So, over 1000's of years a list of 40 authors, all from different times, walks of life, education and motivation, wrote a collection of 66 books that intertwine the creation of the universe, prediction of many events, list family trees, battles and conquests, lives of humans that are metaphorically speaking of the coming messiah, contain stories that foretell the life of Christ, predict His arrival and follow His life. All will meshing in content as if written by one genius.

I'm still waiting for a book that can compare to the Bible as a source of a foundation for the way you live, believe and trust your eternity on.

The Bible, as far as I'm concerned has no equal. If any other book on this earth does not back up what the Bible says, or the Bible does not agree with what it says, the book is entertainment at best, apostate at the worst.

miknik5 · Oct 16, 2016

Colter said:
Gods spirit is in us.

How did CHRIST's SPIRIT get in all the prophets?

And where is CHRIST now?
If HE is separate from THE FATHER then how many LIFE-GIVING SPIRITS are poured out upon those who believe?

Colter · Oct 17, 2016

miknik5 said:
How did CHRIST's SPIRIT get in all the prophets?

And where is CHRIST now?
If HE is separate from THE FATHER then how many LIFE-GIVING SPIRITS are poured out upon those who believe?

The Father was in the prophets as he is available to all of his children on earth. After the Ascension, the spirit of truth was pored out upon all flesh; Father and Son combined in one gift.

miknik5 · Oct 17, 2016

Colter said:
The Father was in the prophets as he is available to all of his children on earth. After the Ascension, the spirit of truth was pored out upon all flesh; Father and Son combined in one gift.

Then how is it that it is only through CHRIST that we have access to THE FATHER by ONE SPIRIT and it is only he who had THE SON who has LIFE

JacksBratt · Oct 17, 2016

Colter said:
The Father was in the prophets as he is available to all of his children on earth. After the Ascension, the spirit of truth was pored out upon all flesh; Father and Son combined in one gift.

Again, this is just all just talk. Wordage that has no basis or foundation in any scripture.

Is this concept your own personal view or do you have any sort of document or text or scripture to validate it.

It seems like it has just enough of the right words to sound Biblical but is not biblical at all.

Colter · Oct 17, 2016

miknik5 said:
Then how is it that it is only through CHRIST that we have access to THE FATHER by ONE SPIRIT and it is only he who had THE SON who has LIFE

The Son has always been the way. All who seek God and survive death will go through the Son to the Father.

Colter · Oct 17, 2016

JacksBratt said:
Again, this is just all just talk. Wordage that has no basis or foundation in any scripture.

Is this concept your own personal view or do you have any sort of document or text or scripture to validate it.

It seems like it has just enough of the right words to sound Biblical but is not biblical at all.

You probably aught to study the scripture a little more before talking down to people.

Ezekiel 36

“I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances."

Joel 2

28“It will come about after this
That I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind;
And your sons and daughters will prophesy,
Your old men will dream dreams,
Your young men will see visions.

29“Even on the male and female servants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days.

miknik5 · Oct 17, 2016

Colter said:
The Son has always been the way. All who seek God and survive death will go through the Son to the Father.

Not true. Not all have heard THE VOICE of the SON of GOD now

Some will hear HIS VOICE later. But that does not necessarily secure that these (who hear HIS VOICE later) will be raised to LIFE

Read John 5

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