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We had a Thanksgiving get-together at our house the other day for DH's side of the family, and an interesting conversation came up. My stepson (I'll call him SS29) and his wife (I'll call her SDIL) are expecting their fourth child. SDIL, my stepdaughter, and I were talking and SDIL was complaining that when she told some man about her expecting her fourth child, he gave her a lecture that she's already had too many children. He said that she won't be able to afford to send them all to college, and I gather was trying to make her feel guilty for that. (I am not of the opinion that all parents owe their children an all-expense-paid college education, but it's nice to help if possible). He has only one child, makes good money, and brags about sending the child to college and seems to think everyone else should do the same. Anyway, I can understand why she was offended by that and I told her, "Some people think because something works well for them, that everyone else should do the same. Whether a person has one, 10, or no children, there are pros and cons no matter which you choose to do. It is easy for those who have chosen differently to come up with all the things wrong with what you have done, because they don't know or understand your experience." And she says "Yeah" and then proceeds to criticize people who have only one child. Hello?! :doh:She went on and on about how selfish it is for the people she knew who had an only child. She said the two only children she knows are lonely or spoiled. She's trying to convince her friend who has one child to have at least one more.

IMO, maybe having an only child does have an extra challenge of keeping the child from feeling lonely, but maybe that just means that you, as the parent are more responsible to spend time with the child and not expect him/her to go off in a corner to play alone all the time. And what about getting them plugged in somewhere outside the home where they have interests and friends? Is having a sibling the only way you can have a complete childhood? Also, it seems to me that having more children to keep one child from feeling lonely is, in a way, placing your responsibility as a parent on your future children. Having more children doesn't guarantee that all of your children won't feel lonely. I am the youngest of four children, all the others were older and had their own interests and didn't want me tagging along. I might as well have been an only child.

Anyway, back to the conversation with SDIL, then my other stepson, (not SDIL's husband) walks in the room and she asks him if he wants to have children, and he says '"no", so she starts badgering him about that. And I said to him, in front of her, "It's ok SS, having children is not for everyone. It's not for me".

It's just strange how a person gets offended when someone attacks their way of life, but then they are quick to turn around and attack someone else's.
 

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Wow. It's like what you said just went in one ear and out the other. I guess this happens when someone feels so attacked for their choices that they are 100% on the defensive but it's amazing to me that she actually said, "Yeah" in agreement with you and then went on to do exactly what she just agreed was wrong. :doh:

Do your step-kids know you are a CF? If so, that was a little rude of her to give your step-son grief over not wanting kids right in front of you.
 
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Wow. It's like what you said just went in one ear and out the other. I guess this happens when someone feels so attacked for their choices that they are 100% on the defensive but it's amazing to me that she actually said, "Yeah" in agreement with you and then went on to do exactly what she just agreed was wrong. :doh:

Do your step-kids know you are a CF? If so, that was a little rude of her to give your step-son grief over not wanting kids right in front of you.


Yes, she knows it, and I've even mentioned to her before about how I felt judged in the past by church members. She seems to be one of those people who only understands their own experience and anyone who is different is wrong.
 
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you feel judged at church? I have this experience/feeling that I have a personality that chooses the hard way in life all too often. I'm not sure if it's depressing or comical that I have this to look forward to. Hah!

A thought on only children. You mentioned a special challenge in keeping them from feeling lonely. I have a younger brother and I still felt VERY lonely when my parents were going through a divorce (I was 15 when I realized it was going to happen and it happened at 17). And I felt like I lost my brother somewhere in there. Then I ended up moving in with my mom after finishing HS. There was a comm college near where she and my brother lived, so it was the obvy choice. I got past this by finding and burying myself in given hobbies (computers, climbing). Then later as I was becoming an adult, I got my brother back. One of the things that helped was the random stanger that befriended me. I think that something that might help an only child would be to keep a good company of adult mentors that can help. It's not that they would spend regular time with the kid, but whenever they started building friendships you know.

I think that this is something of my calling. I'm not sure, but it feels like it. Just being a mentor to the kids of the people who are really important to me. I feel like that is why I'm here (in the child free part of life).
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you feel judged at church?

Oh, yes. I had a bad experience with a Sunday school class that was openly antagonistic against childfree couples. I ranted and raved about it several times here about a year ago.


I have this experience/feeling that I have a personality that chooses the hard way in life all too often
Could you elaborate on this? I am interested in understanding what that means.




You mentioned a special challenge in keeping them from feeling lonely

I don't really know for sure. I am trying to see things from someone else's perspective. I am assuming that it could be an extra challenge. I guess it could depend on individual experience.





I have a younger brother and I still felt VERY lonely when my parents were going through a divorce (I was 15 when I realized it was going to happen and it happened at 17). And I felt like I lost my brother somewhere in there. Then I ended up moving in with my mom after finishing HS. There was a comm college near where she and my brother lived, so it was the obvy choice

I know what you mean. Even though I was one of four children, I often felt lonely. It just goes to show that having siblings doesn't guarantee that a child won't feel lonely.






I think that something that might help an only child would be to keep a good company of adult mentors that can help. It's not that they would spend regular time with the kid, but whenever they started building friendships you know.


That's a great idea. It's good for parents to get their children plugged in somewhere so they feel like they belong.







I think that this is something of my calling. I'm not sure, but it feels like it. Just being a mentor to the kids of the people who are really important to me. I feel like that is why I'm here (in the child free part of life).


That's great.
 
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I know what you mean. Even though I was one of four children, I often felt lonely. It just goes to show that having siblings doesn't guarantee that a child won't feel lonely.

Yup. I was the youngest of four, and my siblings are 8, 10, and 12 years older than me. They grew up in a little clump, knowing the same people, having the same friends, the same experiences, etc., and then after this long gap there was me.

We had nothing in common, I was too much younger than them to play with them or do anything with them growing up, and if anything it was like I had 3 extra parents rather than siblings.

Having more than one child is no guarantee of a good childhood, or one without loneliness -- unless the Children Police want to also impose regulations on the gap between children and the temperament they must have.
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Yup. I was the youngest of four, and my siblings are 8, 10, and 12 years older than me. They grew up in a little clump, knowing the same people, having the same friends, the same experiences, etc., and then after this long gap there was me.

We had nothing in common, I was too much younger than them to play with them or do anything with them growing up, and if anything it was like I had 3 extra parents rather than siblings.

Having more than one child is no guarantee of a good childhood, or one without loneliness -- unless the Children Police want to also impose regulations on the gap between children and the temperament they must have.
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Wow, that sounds alot like my childhood. My siblings are 3, 11, and 12 years older than me. And like you, my siblings had their own friends. Even now, family get-togethers leave me feeling left out because the older siblings are always talking about the experiences they had together and they have memories of things that happened before I was born. Now my sister who is closer to my age, we have a little more in common, but she never wanted me to tag along with her when we were younger. We were close until she got to be about 12 and then she wanted to go and do her own thing. And that's perfectly natural. It wasn't her responsibility to keep me entertained. It would have been good if my parents got me involved in something instead of letting me spend so much time alone.

And I guess someone could look at that and pick apart how my parents did things and say they should have spaced us closer together. You can look at anyone's situation and find tradeoffs. Some people think they always have the perfect solution to everything. :p
 
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Some people think they always have the perfect solution to everything. :p

I know, and the worst part about it is that if they all just did it MY WAY, the world would be a much better place. ;) :p
 
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My brother is 6 years older than me, and while I didn't really feel like an only child as long as he lived with us (until I was 12/13), I became one when he moved out. Also, I don't have childhood memories with my brother in it because we never did anything together.




It's odd that many people can only defend themselves by attacking others.
 
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I'm not on here real often, but I'd like to answer your Q.

I feel like my personality picks the tougher road ceteris parabis (all else the same).
Say you want to do something simple like send someone a letter. I prefer to send documents in PDF format. first off, who knows what that is? the program that I've found to be "easy" for that conversion makes you "print" to the pdf printer. Then once you have it, you need to make sure it converted correctly AND that the recipient has acrobat. now, wouldn't it be easier to just call them? this is a silly example of how my mind works if this makes any sense.
 
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I am an only child, and was never spoiled, that's for sure. My parents divorced when I was 6, and things were tough after that. And the money for me to go to university wasn't available, I got a student loan and dropped out after a year (later found out I have Asperger's syndrome). If FH and I do decide to have children, I'd be very content having just one! As my dad says "That's all you need", hehe.
 
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A thought on only children. You mentioned a special challenge in keeping them from feeling lonely.
I'm an only child, and I never felt lonely growing up. I was perfectly content playing by myself.

Now though, I have no living family. No parents, aunts & uncles, cousins, children; nobody. When I got divorced, then I finally understood what loneliness was.

I felt like I would be the little old woman who died and nobody noticed until the neighbors started complaining to the health department about the smell.

Do I think that's a reason to have children when you don't want them? Of course not. But it certainly is something to keep in mind. It's a pretty scary place to be, when you know that not a single soul in all the world cares about you.
 
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I'm an only child, and I never felt lonely growing up. I was perfectly content playing by myself.

Now though, I have no living family. No parents, aunts & uncles, cousins, children; nobody. When I got divorced, then I finally understood what loneliness was.

I felt like I would be the little old woman who died and nobody noticed until the neighbors started complaining to the health department about the smell.

Do I think that's a reason to have children when you don't want them? Of course not. But it certainly is something to keep in mind. It's a pretty scary place to be, when you know that not a single soul in all the world cares about you.

I am really sorry to hear that. I have relatives but they have nothing to do with me..
 
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I am really sorry to hear that. I have relatives but they have nothing to do with me..
Thanks, sweetie. But I'm fine, truly I am. I have my husband, and so now I also have family. I love his sister to pieces. She just got married, and I look forward to spoiling her children for her.

I'm going to be the horrible aunt who buys the kids musical toys, feeds them lots of sugar and red Kool Aid, and then sends them home to their parents when they are completely ruined. :D
 
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Thanks, sweetie. But I'm fine, truly I am. I have my husband, and so now I also have family. I love his sister to pieces. She just got married, and I look forward to spoiling her children for her.

I'm going to be the horrible aunt who buys the kids musical toys, feeds them lots of sugar and red Kool Aid, and then sends them home to their parents when they are completely ruined. :D

My friend bought her cousin's 2 year old a drum kit for Christmas.. :D
 
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