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One thing I don't understand about the creationist position

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I fit his profile, too, but I'm not left handed. So much for that dissertation topic.
You might be a statistical outlier.

I think this subject is potential Ig Nobel Prize winning material for psychology.
Given the 2020 Ig Nobel Prize for psychology was awarded to Miranda Giacomin and Nicholas Rule, for devising a method to identify narcissists by examining their eyebrows, anything is possible.

A Canadian researcher won an Ig Nobel Prize for her eyebrow-raising study
 
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There is no surprise that the first part is never answered, as it is irrelevant, I do not and I think others do not know details about how evolution was working according to the claims about that, while certainly what unlimited God is doing would not be understood. That the process of the Creator creating all the cells with the genetic materials with the needed codes and the organelles together with all others in organized systems for living organisms is not understood is not basis to deny that, or the same basis would be enough to deny evolution, as the details of that are not understood either. This is all irrelevant.

What is relevant is whether God could create through evolution. God's unlimited power and ability to create would not be limited to not be able to do that. When I was younger and familiar with texts speaking of evolution as I was learning from education I was thinking of theistic evolution. Being a believer did come to create problems with that, as it would be basis to disbelieve other points of Christianity, and it remained that way until I was reading a material that was showing the basis of evolution was full of gaps, that involved assumptions to fill those in. So since then evolution remained in doubt for me, and I trusted things of God more.

But I check here just in case there are things I missed considering.

Why might it be ruled out? I can believe the world was created perfectly, with no problems, just like I can believe in Heaven, and there was the fall with human rebellion that brought in the curse, which then spreads through the world with ongoing rebellion and harm being done, so the world has been corrupted, with death being a great part of how things work now.
 
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I really don't understand what you're trying to say.
 
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I really don't understand what you're trying to say.

I think he means that given the choice (as a Christian) between two incomprehensible theories regarding creation he is more comfortable with the bible account than with the scientific account.
 
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I think he means that given the choice (as a Christian) between two incomprehensible theories regarding creation he is more comfortable with the bible account than with the scientific account.

Except that the theory of evolution isn't incomprehensible, and there is absolutely nothing stopping a person from believing that God created everything through the processes that we see through investigation of His creation.
Anything else is idolatry of the Bible.
 
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I don't think man has the mental capacity to drink either theory all in. Most simply believe one or the other and spare themselves the headache.
 
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I don't think man has the mental capacity to drink either theory all in. Most simply believe one or the other and spare themselves the headache.

Except that theistic evolution is a thing, so your explanation doesn't really hold water.
 
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I don't think man has the mental capacity to drink either theory all in. Most simply believe one or the other and spare themselves the headache.
Most Christians believe both. Because man does indeed have the mental capacity to understand--except for those who are biased against knowledge and learning difficult things.
 
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Most Christians believe both. Because man does indeed have the mental capacity to understand--except for those who are biased against knowledge and learning difficult things.

That's a pretty broad brush yer swingin' there.
 
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That could be true as well.

Still no good explanation for why creationists say God is somehow powerful enough to make the universe but so powerless as to say that creating things through evolution is beyond him though.
 
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Still no good explanation for why creationists say God is somehow powerful enough to make the universe but so powerless as to say that creating things through evolution is beyond him though.

Who says that?
 
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That's a pretty broad brush yer swingin' there.
No, compare the number of Christians worldwide (over two billion) with the number of creationists (not more than a hundred million at the outside).
 
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Creationists. As I said in the post you quoted and also in the OP and also in abundance on this forum.

God can do anything he wants. Creationists take his written word as fact, that's all.
 
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No, compare the number of Christians worldwide (over two billion) with the number of creationists (not more than a hundred million at the outside).

Jesus did say, "Fear not little flock..."
 
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God can do anything he wants. Creationists take his written word as fact, that's all.

Except God didn't write anything. Men wrote the Bible, not God. So, as I said before, it's idolatry of the Bible to claim that the Bible is right and that God's actual creation is wrong.
 
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Jesus did say, "Fear not little flock..."
I agree. The only thing which might keep creationists out of heaven is their attitude towards Christians who are not creationists.
 
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