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This is standard academic tactics.
Ask a question, then every answer generates two more questions, until the discussion goes to pot.
I don't know how to expel God out of the picture. What I do expel are certain religious beliefs. That's a very different thing. And especially one in this case that makes God out to be a deceiver.By expelling God from the picture, then, and using ONLY natural processes to date the rock and tell us how it was 'formed' that is nothing more than a statement of preferences and faith. The preference is to use only the natural to explain creation. Faith comes in because no one can prove there is no God or that there is, so using the one belief (only the natural) cannot arrive at the truth.
Or a positive, either one. You cannot prove that we must use only the natural to be able to tell us how we got here.Your OP does it for me, and I cannot prove a negative.
As do modern people.Ancient people only knew what they knew at the time.
Ha. OK, I didn't know that. I thought it might have been some concept/doctrine of some churches or something. Congrats to AVI then.They would have had no concept of millions or billions of years of age since such a thing was not considered back then when human existence was measured in generations of families. While, begrudgingly, the idea of the 'deception' is recent, the concept of embedded age is even more recent, being only created by AV on this website alone, and no-one else.
Because He is God. He creates as He pleases. He knew that having stuff in rocks and elsewhere would happen. We cannot blame Him for unbelievers in the end of time strictly leaving Him out of the picture and concocting their alternate creation stories. That does not make Him the deceiver. IF they asked Him, He may have even revealed the reason. Who knows? Instead they insult Him by leaving Him out entirely. Then they blame Him for their confused minds and deception?No, it's me wanting you to actually engage with the question and answer it. I'll even highlight the word that I actually want you to focus on in the question:
Why would God create a rock that existed for two days, yet have it so that the radioactive isotopes within show that it has appeared to have existed for billions of years?
It is easy. Just use only the physical in your conception of how we all got here. God is not physical. You use one part of the equation to get your result.I don't know how to expel God out of the picture.
Did Jesus hold those beliefs? If so, who are you to expel them?What I do expel are certain religious beliefs.
Not to honest simple men who do not pretend to be god or know more than God, or religiously ignore God.That's a very different thing. And especially one in this case that makes God out to be a deceiver.
A bit like censorship, they stink up a thread with parrot posts, while ignoring answers and hoping the whole thing goes away.This is standard academic tactics.
Ask a question, then every answer generates two more questions, until the discussion goes to pot.
Or a positive, either one. You cannot prove that we must use only the natural to be able to tell us how we got here.
As do modern people.
Ha. OK, I didn't know that. I thought it might have been some concept/doctrine of some churches or something. Congrats to AVI then.
Anyhow, I think the people in Adam's day and afterwards knew about eternity. So if they thought the world was always here or some such we would know it. No. That is a modern concept based on the 'naturalonlydunnit' modelling.
Because He is God. He creates as He pleases. He knew that having stuff in rocks and elsewhere would happen. We cannot blame Him for unbelievers in the end of time strictly leaving Him out of the picture and concocting their alternate creation stories. That does not make Him the deceiver. IF they asked Him, He may have even revealed the reason. Who knows? Instead they insult Him by leaving Him out entirely. Then they blame Him for their confused minds and deception?
Putting unnecessary AI Overview aside: why would God create a rock with billions of years of age when he can create a rock of any hardness or toughness WITHOUT putting in radioactive isotopes that can be dated to have existed for billions of years? What's the point of it?
A bit like censorship, they stink up a thread with parrot posts, while ignoring answers and hoping the whole thing goes away.
God works in mysterious ways.
Then why am I repeatedly asking him the same question?
Because you can't recognize the answer.
And yet you seem to think you have all the answers about His creation...
Nobody has left Him out of it. We can agree that He made everything. And that includes the intelligence to work out how old things are. If you have a tree then we can tell how old it is by counting the growth rings. We know it just didn't appear a couple of days ago. Similarly, we can date rocks. So we know when God created it.Instead they insult Him by leaving Him out entirely. Then they blame Him for their confused minds and deception?
Since we only know about creation through Scripture, what you say makes no senseOh, so you can factor God into an equation without relying on the Bible? That's damn impressive.
He that thinks he knows something knows nothing but what he ought to know the bible saysTrue, but we also know a lot more than what people in history knew.
OKNo, it was all AV, so credit needs to be given to him.
A long time in other words. And they did not attach that concept to the age of the earth that I am aware.And eternity is one of those... it's a weird concept historically since each culture had their own view on what counted as eternity, but it usually refers to something that does not follow the singular flow of time.
By flushing the natural only bit. Then we add God. Then we come up with a new result for the equationAs for the "'naturalonlydunnit' modelling" as you so eloquently put it (as I type it dripping with sarcasm).... how exactly do you factor God into an equation?
It explains where man and the world came from. It could not explain how He did it precisely. Just like it does not explain how Jesus' body was risen from the dead.So God being God explains everything. And since it explains everything it explains nothing.
It would not be age in the rocks on the second day after they were created. Not at all.Yeah, I'm still going to call embedded age a deception and since I do not believe that God is deceptive, I'm calling to call embedded age something worse than rubbish.
God's not physical, but this Creation is. Yes, I use only what God's own Creation, as Created by God is showing us.It is easy. Just use only the physical in your conception of how we all got here. God is not physical. You use one part of the equation to get your result.
I'm not a Christian.Did Jesus hold those beliefs? If so, who are you to expel them?
If your into having God as a deceiver?...that's not the God whom I pray to.Not to honest simple men who do not pretend to be god or know more than God, or religiously ignore God.
For the love of Pete, get his name right.
AV1611VET. I guess AV1 is a better short name
Since we only know about creation through Scripture, what you say makes no sense
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