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Oh boy - I wondered what this whole Mar A Lago thing was about
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<blockquote data-quote="Ana the Ist" data-source="post: 76863171" data-attributes="member: 302807"><p>Not really.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I understand it's been a few years....but this isn't quite correct.</p><p></p><p>I recall that she only used her private email.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right....I'm actually certain that she sent out classified information but since everyone she's corresponding with is using a government address and likely following the rules, they would have been deleted from the server after a fixed time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I understand that a lot of people don't understand in any real sense how the federal government works.</p><p></p><p>She lied. All classified information is marked even in email.</p><p></p><p>She's the head of the State Department, she has detailed information on the movement of government officials in foreign countries....and that's the basic sort of classified information she would be receiving every day. I would estimate someone in her position gets at least 300 emails a day, and it would be extremely generous to imagine that maybe only 10% contain some level of classified information.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What can we rationally infer from that?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's baffling that you can write this sentence after writing the previous one.</p><p></p><p>She used ,if I remember correctly, bleachbit, acidburn, and other data wiping programs to destroy unknown numbers of emails. Then the physical components were smashed with hammers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have no doubt she turned over emails of a very insignificant and inconsequential nature.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is unsurprising.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/story/2016/11/trump-clinton-investigation-kellyanne-conway-231735%3f_amp=true" target="_blank">Trump says he's not interested in pursuing case against Clinton</a></p><p></p><p>He did say in 2016 after all, that he wouldn't pursue anything against her....to avoid appearing divisive....for the good of the country.</p><p></p><p>Now, I guess you're claiming this was a lie and he had people digging through her private life the entire time....yet I don't recall any FBI raids on her house.</p><p></p><p>Got any evidence of this supposed investigation?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, a remarkable statement. The definitive feature of a classified document, file, brief, Intel, etc is the fact that it contains classified information. If it wasn't properly labeled as such, one could excuse the person receiving it....but I've never seen that happen.</p><p></p><p>Now, there's a exception to this called PII or Personel Identifying Information. A document can contain this....and not be classified, but there are still rules for that sort of information that would result in her justifiably being prosecuted for mishandling.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And you believe this???</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Think about what you're asking me for....if I have evidence of classified information being shared in violation of law or policy under Hillary during her appointment to the State Department....you'd like it if I shared that with you.</p><p></p><p>Because I don't mind risking my career or life or perhaps I prefer to live in Moscow just to prove a point to internet strangers.</p><p></p><p>I'm not claiming I was standing over her shoulder when she opened her emails. </p><p></p><p>I'm simply aware of how these things work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Would you like to take a guess at how many people have Top Secret clearance or SCI clearance?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who does?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If he wasn't president at the time he took possession of the documents....You're correct. I don't know who would possibly send him these things in Biden's administration......but if that's what you think happened, I'd wonder why.</p><p></p><p>This is a chart of the State Department.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]319734[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>That big square at the tippy top is where Hillary sat.</p><p></p><p>Now, I'm certain that some of those offices have almost no classified information. Many have some. A few will have more classified information than not. </p><p></p><p>So when I say thousands of classified emails....I'm really just trying to be generous. I'm giving what has to be a lowball estimate. An entry level person at the bottom of this Department probably gets on average 10% classified information.</p><p></p><p>Hillary wouldn't even be bothering with minor issues. It would be more realistic to imagine half of what she saw was classified.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They do.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> ....</p><p></p><p></p><p>Do you like movies?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not going by Huber....I'm going by Comey.</p><p></p><p>He didn't say there was nothing they could prosecute her on. He said he wouldn't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No harm in waiting to see the evidence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ana the Ist, post: 76863171, member: 302807"] Not really. I understand it's been a few years....but this isn't quite correct. I recall that she only used her private email. Right....I'm actually certain that she sent out classified information but since everyone she's corresponding with is using a government address and likely following the rules, they would have been deleted from the server after a fixed time. I understand that a lot of people don't understand in any real sense how the federal government works. She lied. All classified information is marked even in email. She's the head of the State Department, she has detailed information on the movement of government officials in foreign countries....and that's the basic sort of classified information she would be receiving every day. I would estimate someone in her position gets at least 300 emails a day, and it would be extremely generous to imagine that maybe only 10% contain some level of classified information. What can we rationally infer from that? It's baffling that you can write this sentence after writing the previous one. She used ,if I remember correctly, bleachbit, acidburn, and other data wiping programs to destroy unknown numbers of emails. Then the physical components were smashed with hammers. I have no doubt she turned over emails of a very insignificant and inconsequential nature. Which is unsurprising. [URL='https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/story/2016/11/trump-clinton-investigation-kellyanne-conway-231735%3f_amp=true']Trump says he's not interested in pursuing case against Clinton[/URL] He did say in 2016 after all, that he wouldn't pursue anything against her....to avoid appearing divisive....for the good of the country. Now, I guess you're claiming this was a lie and he had people digging through her private life the entire time....yet I don't recall any FBI raids on her house. Got any evidence of this supposed investigation? Again, a remarkable statement. The definitive feature of a classified document, file, brief, Intel, etc is the fact that it contains classified information. If it wasn't properly labeled as such, one could excuse the person receiving it....but I've never seen that happen. Now, there's a exception to this called PII or Personel Identifying Information. A document can contain this....and not be classified, but there are still rules for that sort of information that would result in her justifiably being prosecuted for mishandling. And you believe this??? Think about what you're asking me for....if I have evidence of classified information being shared in violation of law or policy under Hillary during her appointment to the State Department....you'd like it if I shared that with you. Because I don't mind risking my career or life or perhaps I prefer to live in Moscow just to prove a point to internet strangers. I'm not claiming I was standing over her shoulder when she opened her emails. I'm simply aware of how these things work. Would you like to take a guess at how many people have Top Secret clearance or SCI clearance? Who does? If he wasn't president at the time he took possession of the documents....You're correct. I don't know who would possibly send him these things in Biden's administration......but if that's what you think happened, I'd wonder why. This is a chart of the State Department. [ATTACH=full]319734[/ATTACH] That big square at the tippy top is where Hillary sat. Now, I'm certain that some of those offices have almost no classified information. Many have some. A few will have more classified information than not. So when I say thousands of classified emails....I'm really just trying to be generous. I'm giving what has to be a lowball estimate. An entry level person at the bottom of this Department probably gets on average 10% classified information. Hillary wouldn't even be bothering with minor issues. It would be more realistic to imagine half of what she saw was classified. They do. .... Do you like movies? I'm not going by Huber....I'm going by Comey. He didn't say there was nothing they could prosecute her on. He said he wouldn't. No harm in waiting to see the evidence. [/QUOTE]
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