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Often Misused Scriptures

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flyfishing said:
I will not say anything.. I will not say anything...

I myself have posted a restrained version of what I had to say. I did not want to get drawn into a debate. I am carefully narrowing the list of who I will 'debate' in future. Just as an FYI, I have thick skin, so please feel free to talk your heart brother. I have nothing to defend, not a church, not a religion, not doctrine, not a theology - which is all grand, because none of us have the full revelation, and besides, the only revelation we really need is of Jesus Christ and Him crucified - right?
 
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THANKS AND AMEN
 
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Great post before this. Not saying this isn't great, but this one you get into how you understand the verse, and your understanding may or may not be accurate. I agree with some, I disagree with others. Translation errors will be translation errors whether I understand them or not.

For instance:
#7. Romans 7 is used to prove that Paul still had the fallen nature in him. The "duel nature" theory. This is actually Paul speaking reflectively about when he was lost.
Romans 7:15-17
15 For that which I do, I know not. For what I desire, that I do not do; but what I hate, that I do.
16 If then I do that which I do not desire, I consent to the law that it is good.
17 But now it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwells in me.

Your understanding is this is Paul before he was saved, but then my question is why did he not desire to sin, or why did he hate it before he was saved? I didn't hate sin, I actually quite enjoyed it. John says we like darkness, so we don't want to come to the light, lest our sins be exposed.

 
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Yes check out pauls unsaved resume there was no lack of zeal there...
 
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flyfishing said:
Yes check out pauls unsaved resume there was no lack of zeal there...

Yes, and I had that struggle, not while I did not know Christ, but after I was reconciled. I could care less about the ‘old’ and the ‘new man’ before I knew the Lord – in fact; I thought people who talked like that was schizophrenic.
 
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Thanks guys.
I have solid reasons for each of these. They were not just pulled out of a hat.
I may even post 11-20.
Dids
(But here is not the place to debate them. Rom 7 most certainly was Paul discussing his past life of agony and failure against sin... maybe another time)
 
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I am sure you believe your theology bro but i will be willing to show you from the Bible you are wrong.

Romans 7:24. O wretched man i am... Not was..
 
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flyfishing said:
I am sure you believe your theology bro but i will be willing to show you from the Bible you are wrong.

Romans 7:24. O wretched man i am... Not was..
How can you show them they're wrong if they haven't presented what they've studies?

Although I disagree, I'm still interested...then I'd show them why they were wrong...
 
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