Offended by X-Men: Apocalypse

[Caleb-D]

I just saw the trailer and was offended by its mockery of God and the Bible. I can never watch these da vinci code types of movies.

 

[SilverBlade]

Really? Really?

I think this says something about you more than the movie itself.

How can you possibly, possibly judge what is offensive about the movie when you haven't seen it all? Simple..you can't. You're offended by something taken completely out of context.

Think about it with a clear head for a moment. What are they actually trying to do with the trailer? AND NO..it isn't trying to offend anyone. They are cherry picking lines to put into the trailer to give you a VERY SMALL sense of what the main villain is. It is simply to get people intrigued about the character. Nothing more.

Right now, we don't know what context it is in during the movie. It could be a standard conversation, it could be a telepathic vision between Apocalypse and Xavier, or it could only be specific to the trailer and may not even show up in the movie itself. YOU DO NOT KNOW. And don't pretend you do.

Stop being so offended by a line without knowing the full and complete context around it.

How do you maintain a job or go out in public when you know you've heard statements a thousand times worse? Do you stay offended all day? Get angry at each time someone says something that may be a 'mockery' to God?

May as well stop your internet and cable TV subscription, seal yourself in your home. It sounds like you can't handle the world.

 

[Caleb-D]

I was wondering whether you were an atheist trolling at a Christian website, but now I know you're not. I can understand that x-men fans like you can get upset with what I said. I also wish I just overreacted to a short trailer from a two hour film that really doesn't argue anything against the Bible as I wanted to watch the film too until I saw the trailer. If you decide to go see it which I'm sure you will, let me know after seeing it whether the guy who wrote the following article and I were disturbed by a misleading trailer -> http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/chri...es-controversial-move-against-christians.html

 

[SilverBlade]

I am a Christian, and just because I'm not in any way offended at the trailer has no bearing on me being a Christian. No one can make that call.

Why be offended at something a fictional character says? If you listen carefully, Apocalypse says: “I’ve been called many things over many lifetimes, Ra, Krishna, Yahweh…” Key words there 'I've been called'. He never says 'I am'. Big difference there. Obviously, in the X-Men universe there, ancient humans called Apocalypse these, but Apocalypse never himself calls himself that, from what the trailer alludes to.

Now this line: “Like the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. He got that one from the Bible,” says X-Man Havok. "Or the Bible got that from him,” responds another character.

This doesn't go against the Bible, or God, or anything. Again, purely fictional. And a completely organic/realistic conversation that two people would have in this environment.

Like I said before, if you're so offended at this trailer, how do you survive in the real world? You hear much, much worse just walking in shopping areas, or school, or work.

How do you survive watching TV or being on the internet where you hear or read much much worse?

If you go around being offended at what everybody says, even fictional characters, I see that as not being a 'Christian'. If you read what Jesus was like during his time on earth, he very rarely got offended by what people said around him that were obviously going against him and God. The only time he was truly offended was when he started to flip tables in the temple.

If Jesus, who we all claim to believe in/follow, didn't seem to be offended when he was going around, then why do we think that being 'offended at every single thing said against him' is what we should do? We shouldn't be offended because HE, HIMSELF wasn't.

 

[Caleb-D]

I tried to edit my response to your comments but unfortunately that didn't take back what I didn't want you to read. Anyways, I don't like to argue against any fellow Christians, so please don't feel disturbed by what I wrote to you when I thought you were an atheist.

 

[Caleb-D]

Well I think you and I react differently when we are offended by anyone. When a movie or a store such as starbucks offends me, I simply try to stay away from it, that's all. If you thought I was going to run around, shout and throw things at people like a mad man when being offended, then you must have mistaken me for a muslim.

 

[Sistrin]

I have to side with SilverBlade on this. We live in a world where mocking and attempting to offend Christians and Christianity has become an art form. For some on the political left and for most atheist it has morphed into a calling. A comic book character citing some have called him Yahweh is tame in comparison to the majority of what else is out there.

A Christian's strength isn't found in isolation from the world. It comes from the Holy Spirit. We live in a sick world, but it is the world we have to live in. No line of dialogue in a comic book movie, or no liberal foaming at the mouth over a manger scene, or no atheist/satanist crying over how much they hate Christians is going to cause me to lose my faith.

They play their games, we play ours. What you have to remember is we have already won.

If you thought I was going to run around, shout and throw things at people like a mad man when being offended, then you must have mistaken me for a muslim.

Now you've got it.

 

[BookofMatt]

Likewise, we live in a world where Christians scrape the bottom of the barrel in fabricating a persecution complex to fuel their own narcissistic personality disorders and use it as a soapbox to proclaim moral superiority over those whose opinions they disagree with. We live in a world where the message and actions of Jesus Christ matter less to Christians than nitpicking irrelevant facets of popular culture, ultimately reducing their faith to nothing more than a self-serving, paranoia-drenched political defense against imagined satanic threats, as if they're in any actual danger of being dethroned from their status of the highest order of religious - and usually racial and social - privilege in the country.



I have no desire to start an argument, but I felt obligated to tongue-in-cheekly mirror one side of Christian extremism with another. Honestly, this whole thread is completely ridiculous to me. I can only wonder in what faith do such feelings of hostility and insecurity so casually yet passionately arise in people. Either way, it's probably not a type which should buy a ticket to 'X-Men: Apocalypse'.

 

[Sistrin]

Likewise, we live in a world where Christians scrape the bottom of the barrel in fabricating a persecution complex to fuel their own narcissistic personality disorders and use it as a soapbox to proclaim moral superiority over those whose opinions they disagree with.

Or it could be the taking of the biblical phrase "give no place to the devil" to its extreme.

We live in a world where the message and actions of Jesus Christ matter less to Christians than nitpicking irrelevant facets of popular culture, ultimately reducing their faith to nothing more than a self-serving, paranoia-drenched political defense against imagined satanic threats...

Those threats are real. Satanism has embedded within it a number of goals, with the attempted destruction of Christianity chief among them. If you ever tried to talk to a dedicated satanist you would quickly see the hatred is palpable.

...as if they're in any actual danger of being dethroned from their status of the highest order of religious - and usually racial and social - privilege in the country.

I have yet to attend a Christian church of any denomination anywhere with a "no blacks/hispanic/poor people allowed" sign posted on the door. Sure, Christians can at times be guilty of pride just as people in any other group, but the lie that Christians believe they are perfect is just that, a lie.

Honestly, this whole thread is completely ridiculous to me. I can only wonder in what faith do such feelings of hostility and insecurity so casually yet passionately arise in people.

Ephesians 4:27. Or perhaps James 4:7. Christians are advised to "resist the devil." People can interpret and apply that differently. I read all the Harry Potter books and went to see the movies. Other Christians may have avoided them like the plague. Some may disagree but I don't believe God is going to damn me to hell because I liked Luna Lovegood.

Either way, it's probably not a type which should buy a ticket to 'X-Men: Apocalypse'.

If that is the choice fine.

 

[random person]

i don't know if the name of yahweh was necessary per se amongst the litany of gods.

but remember apocalypse is a megalomaniacal villian and this piece of dialogue gives him shadings of the devil... as an imposter and a great liar...

and who is to say that line about yahweh isnt a complete fabrication on the behalf of apocalypse himself and that in the reality within this fictional universe not one living soul ever confused him for yahweh or ever called him yahweh.

i want to see this movie for sure being a big fan of comics.