OCDish and worrying about sinning and causing others to sin

[jollyjosh]

well, bit of background, i believe i have ocd, no doctor said it or anything, but i know what it is, and i feel that, unless i confess like tiny things, i'll go to hell, eg.
i do something, and want to tell someone, i feel that i have boasted
also,
in england its illegal to ride on the pavement, but i bmx, so i just hop onto it and off etc, and worry that this is a sin, and i worry that i cause my friends to sin if they copy me
also,
i got my friends into this band which has the line "can anybody tell me why God doesn't speak to me? why Jesus never called on me to part the f--king seas?" and now i worry i have corrupted them or something and i worry that i cause people to sin if i say something and they say "oh (insert swear word or misuse of Gods name"

should i just stop worrying?

and finally, it is hard to differ God talking, and the OCD talking, eg. i see a Bible and i think "read it read it read it read it" and i dont know if its God or me, like, i read the Bible everyday, either before bed or in the day, and if i leave it till bedtime i feel i have sinned, but i like reading it then cuz its relaxing.
and really finally, i worry about breaking the law a lot, say, before i sent music to people over msn and dled it illegally but i stopped now but now worry that the people i sent it to are sinning cuz they got it illegally? what do i do? also my bike doesnt have a front brake, reflectors and stuff, which is law, but really, i couldnt ride with them, am i sinning? cuz im pretty sure theres a bible verse that says "yield to the leaders" so if i dont follow the law like that i feel i am sinning.
and absolutly finally, if i see a post on here that says "pray for me" i feel that i HAVE to or i am sinning.
does anyone have any advice?
thanks a bunch

 

[The-Doctor]

I dont think you have OCD....I think you just worry to much. Relax and don't worry.

 

[Dondi]

If you are a Christian, then Jesus paid in full all your sins. You duty now is to Love God and Love others (Matthew 22:37-40). Let God's Holy Spirit guide you and keep reading the Bible to implant the word in your heart, transforming your mind (Romans 12:1-2, Psalm 119:9-10).

I don't have OCD, but I live with a parent who does. So I know somewhat what you are going through. Be assured God Loves You!!

 

[tapero]

Dear JollyJosh,

I don't know much about the OCD but there is a forum for anxieties that might help you.

You really sound like you are not secure in Christ.

If you are saved, that is:

Romans 10
9That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.

then you are guaranteed redemption in Christ.
Ephesians 1

13And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession—to the praise of his glory

I write all this because you seem not to be sure you are saved. If you are saved then all your sins have already been forgiven, but we confess them to others, to God to lead us to repentance from them.

Stop doing the sins that you know you can stop, and ask the Holy Spirit, ask God for help with the sins you feel you can't stop. It isn't good to lead others to sin, but if you are sorry for your sin, then you see you are repentent. You are very hard on yourself, and have a sensitive conscience. We are free in Christ, and though we sin, Jesus always lives to intercede for us.

Check out the anxiety board to get help with being obsessive. It could be a phase or you could have a problem with occ.

I feel for you because when I am insecure I kind of do a lot of the same thing. When lightning strikes and I am scared I confess everything I can think of. lol I am so afraid, but in Christ, I don't need to be afraid, but sometimes I am weak in my faith.

You need to know that you are saved and stand on the promise of the guaranteeing our redemption - that we can not lose our salvation if we are saved.

Take care friend, tapero

 

[Anti Existance]

well, bit of background, i believe i have ocd, no doctor said it or anything, but i know what it is, and i feel that, unless i confess like tiny things, i'll go to hell, eg.

Talk to a doctor, and get yourself examined if you have ocd or not, the thing is, you are living in insecurty. You have to replace insecurity with security. God is a Secure foundation, and your doctor can give you OCD confirmation.

If your doctor says 'yes you have ocd, or no you don't have ocd' then you can go home RELAXED.

i do something, and want to tell someone, i feel that i have boasted also,
in england its illegal to ride on the pavement, but i bmx, so i just hop onto it and off etc, and worry that this is a sin, and i worry that i cause my friends to sin if they copy me

Its also illigal to forbid 'everything' like goverments really like to do nowadays, you see people need space to live + play, and with God its so that as long as you don't hurt anyone its not a sin. So you have a fun time playing, unless someone objects, just leave an play somewhere else with your bike.

also,
i got my friends into this band which has the line "can anybody tell me why God doesn't speak to me? why Jesus never called on me to part the f--king seas?" and now i worry i have corrupted them or something and i worry that i cause people to sin if i say something and they say "oh (insert swear word or misuse of Gods name"

Many people have been brought up, abusing God,jesus ,f--king ,and what not as a profanity, this is indeed a form of educational corruption. Its hard to stop profanity, what you should 'try' is to reduce swearing as much as possible.

should i just stop worrying?

Do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes?
Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?
Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?
And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
So do not worry, saying, ``What shall we eat?'' or ``What shall we drink?'' or ``What shall we wear?'' For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

- Matthew 6:25-​

So the answer is NO , you should not worry, God will continue to love you no matter what you do. What you SHOULD do is to become a loving and helping person.

You see the meaning of life is to love and help others.

and finally, it is hard to differ God talking, and the OCD talking, eg. i see a Bible and i think "read it read it read it read it" and i dont know if its God or me, like, i read the Bible everyday, either before bed or in the day, and if i leave it till bedtime i feel i have sinned, but i like reading it then cuz its relaxing.

Well there are 2 things. You have free will, so you decide wether to read it or not. Its not a sin if you leave your bible to pile up dust. Its just a book, what matters is that the word of God is alive in your heart. Because in the end its about people, and not about the bible where the priority lies. All what Jesus did was for the people, and the bible is a tool that wants us to reflects his actions of love and helping other people into our hearts.

and really finally, i worry about breaking the law a lot, say, before i sent music to people over msn and dled it illegally but i stopped now but now worry that the people i sent it to are sinning cuz they got it illegally? what do i do? also my bike doesnt have a front brake, reflectors and stuff, which is law, but really, i couldnt ride with them, am i sinning? cuz im pretty sure theres a bible verse that says "yield to the leaders" so if i dont follow the law like that i feel i am sinning.
and absolutly finally, if i see a post on here that says "pray for me" i feel that i HAVE to or i am sinning.
does anyone have any advice?
thanks a bunch

Jesus broke the laws many many times, the laws of mankind that is, you see laws are placed so things are kept in order. If there where no rules ,chaos would follow. But that doesn't mean you don't have to think for yourself. And Gods laws are above that of mankind, Jesus never broke the laws of God, rather enforced them.

Imagine there was a pavement somewhere in the desert there's no one exept you, and you would go on and off it playing with your bike. Your not bothering anyone, so a law that says 'you can't ride on the pavement' would be rediculous. Would God mind? Of course not.

Now when the pavement is full of little children picknicking, and your driving over their heads with your bmx, now THEN we have a problem, again the laws are there to preserve order, to preserve the happyness of people, can you see how you 'disturbed' that order by
driving over the heads of those people.

Can you see the subtle 'difference' between these two?

My final advice.

Replace your insecurites with securities.

If you have a problem to decide wether something is 'sinfull' or not. There is an easy way to avoid any problems.

If you are unsure about something simply 'DONT DO IT'

Until you find security about that issue.

Ask yourself, 'am i hurting someone' because thats usually the defining question on wether its a sin or not.

You are really hurting yourself for worrying so much, life is for us to enjoy. Now as for your task here on earth.

You see the world is a unhappy place, the people live in darkness and hatred. They will often give you a lot of darkness and hatred, and bad stuff will be thrown many times on your lap in your lifetime.

We as servants of God are here to bring love and light into the lives of people. This means activly helping people out. As a result we become happy ourselves.

 

[jollyjosh]

thanks so much for all your replies!
tapero - i am sure im saved, i just, don't want to screw around, and i guess i just didnt/dont understand a lot of it, but now i realise, that it doesnt matter so much what i do or anything, jesus saved me so i dont need to worry about that cuz hes going to shape me to be the person he wants me to be
anti - atm im too scared to go to a doctor but i will certainly think about it, and anti, on the subject, being drunk doesnt hurt anyone does it (all the time) and having "wild parties" or swearing like saying "oh sh*t" doesnt, and like putting a finger up as a joke between friends doesnt, does it? so why is it advised against?
edit: also, this is probably the last thing: reading music lyrics on the net, i love to do this while songs are playing, but its illegal, and ive been thinking, that its only so cuz of the money grabbing people, when you cant get the lyrics cuz the musics off i tunes, is this wrong? like, this band even says "we cant be botherd to write our lyrics down, go to this site!"

 

[tapero]

Hi there,

I just wasnt' sure if you knew you were saved so I wrote that out.

I'm glad you are.

Need to see in God's word where he says not to do course joking. And lyrics are free on the net, just put the words that you know in, there are plenty of free lyrics on line.

Jesus never broke the law, that's why he was sinless btw.. You see why you have to read the word? You have to know what is wrong and right.

God bless.

 

[jollyjosh]

but free lyrics are illegal are they not?

 

[tapero]

No, free lyrics that I know of are not illegal.

 

[jollyjosh]

oh i thought they were cuz it broke copyright laws but ok

 

[tapero]

oh i thought they were cuz it broke copyright laws but ok

Are you talkig downloading songs? that's illegal if it's free.

I didnnt' realize you couldbe from england where they might call lyrics music.

For lyrics do a google search, and you'll find them on private websites. People are free to write down the words to a song I think. I don't know. It's good you are concerned about it I suppose.

thanks for writing, tapero

 

[jollyjosh]

no im not talking about mp3s and what not, i mean the lyrics, its not that different over here!

 

[tapero]

no im not talking about mp3s and what not, i mean the lyrics, its not that different over here!

LOL, I haven't heard on the news that it is illegal to look up lyrics to a song and read them, or print them. We hear it about the music all the time though.

God bless, ganaan