Obsessing over sinning

[jcolo]

So I have OCD and I tend to obsess over things that may be a sin. For example, I will obsess over whether enjoying/thinking certain things may be a sin and kind of "block" the joy of having those thoughts, etc. until I know whether or not it is a sin or not.

The other day I got hit with a thought of a "what if it is wrong to snuggle and have my girlfriend spend the night." Obviously, these things are not sins themselves but can be a slippery slope for some. I then have obsessed over it to a point where it turns into "It may be wrong to look forward to going home after work to cuddle and spend the night with my girlfriend because I could be tempeted in that situation." Therefore I obsess over whether or not it is wrong to enjoy looking forward to those things even if I am not actually thinking/looking forward to something that may turn into a sin out of that. I realize that it is probably not so black and white and more gray but this can be hard for someone with OCD. It almost comes to a point where you would lead yourself to believe that you can only enjoy those things if you are for sure not going to sin in those areas.

I feel that it is not the snuggling and spending the night that causes me to sin but more the condition of my heart. I feel like when I do sin from things of that area, it is more because of my heart and not the actually act of putting me in those situations. Is it ok to enjoy and look forward to those things if I am not looking forward to the actual sinning part? I basically have been viewing it that if there is one instance where I will sin in that situation, I wont be able to enjoy it at all where in reality there are a lot of things that we may sin in but can enjoy despite those chances.

 

[michaeldimmickjr]

So I have OCD and I tend to obsess over things that may be a sin. For example, I will obsess over whether enjoying/thinking certain things may be a sin and kind of "block" the joy of having those thoughts, etc. until I know whether or not it is a sin or not.

The other day I got hit with a thought of a "what if it is wrong to snuggle and have my girlfriend spend the night." Obviously, these things are not sins themselves but can be a slippery slope for some. I then have obsessed over it to a point where it turns into "It may be wrong to look forward to going home after work to cuddle and spend the night with my girlfriend because I could be tempeted in that situation." Therefore I obsess over whether or not it is wrong to enjoy looking forward to those things even if I am not actually thinking/looking forward to something that may turn into a sin out of that. I realize that it is probably not so black and white and more gray but this can be hard for someone with OCD. It almost comes to a point where you would lead yourself to believe that you can only enjoy those things if you are for sure not going to sin in those areas.

I feel that it is not the snuggling and spending the night that causes me to sin but more the condition of my heart. I feel like when I do sin from things of that area, it is more because of my heart and not the actually act of putting me in those situations. Is it ok to enjoy and look forward to those things if I am not looking forward to the actual sinning part? I basically have been viewing it that if there is one instance where I will sin in that situation, I wont be able to enjoy it at all where in reality there are a lot of things that we may sin in but can enjoy despite those chances.

Sin is separating yourself from God's love. If our heart is pure- we reflect God's love for us and then we love truly. If our heart is not pure- our love is not true love, but a distortion. Sin begins in the heart & mind. That is why Christ said that if you commit adultery in your heart, it's the same as committing the act. We must guard our minds and our hearts from allowing such thoughts to take root. I guess you can ask yourself a simple question and stop obsessing: "Do my actions separate me from God," because that is what sin is. Either we are on the path of uniting ourselves to God through humility, by giving up our freedom, or we are on the path of death, self-worship- separation.

Lord, have mercy.

Christ is Risen!
Michael

 

[CityOfGod]

Why are you having your girlfriend spend the night if not to have sex with her?

This is not a practice I would recommend.

 

[DeadlyScimitars]

So I have OCD and I tend to obsess over things that may be a sin. For example, I will obsess over whether enjoying/thinking certain things may be a sin and kind of "block" the joy of having those thoughts, etc. until I know whether or not it is a sin or not.

The other day I got hit with a thought of a "what if it is wrong to snuggle and have my girlfriend spend the night." Obviously, these things are not sins themselves but can be a slippery slope for some. I then have obsessed over it to a point where it turns into "It may be wrong to look forward to going home after work to cuddle and spend the night with my girlfriend because I could be tempeted in that situation." Therefore I obsess over whether or not it is wrong to enjoy looking forward to those things even if I am not actually thinking/looking forward to something that may turn into a sin out of that. I realize that it is probably not so black and white and more gray but this can be hard for someone with OCD. It almost comes to a point where you would lead yourself to believe that you can only enjoy those things if you are for sure not going to sin in those areas.

I feel that it is not the snuggling and spending the night that causes me to sin but more the condition of my heart. I feel like when I do sin from things of that area, it is more because of my heart and not the actually act of putting me in those situations. Is it ok to enjoy and look forward to those things if I am not looking forward to the actual sinning part? I basically have been viewing it that if there is one instance where I will sin in that situation, I wont be able to enjoy it at all where in reality there are a lot of things that we may sin in but can enjoy despite those chances.

Here's the thing. There is nothing wrong with snuggling. There is nothing wrong with having your gf stay overnight. In and of itself.
My question to you is: What is the purpose of having her stay the night?
If it is not for ungodly intentions then have her stay in a separate room. If you can't do that then my advice is that your intentions were impure in the first place.
Same for snuggling. Ask yourself why you want to snuggle? If your mind goes straight to ungodly situations or scenarios then I would caution against it.
It is a thing of the heart and that is a way to find out your true intentions.
Most of the time though, those situations are not for the right reasons.

 

[thesunisout]

So I have OCD and I tend to obsess over things that may be a sin. For example, I will obsess over whether enjoying/thinking certain things may be a sin and kind of "block" the joy of having those thoughts, etc. until I know whether or not it is a sin or not.

The other day I got hit with a thought of a "what if it is wrong to snuggle and have my girlfriend spend the night." Obviously, these things are not sins themselves but can be a slippery slope for some. I then have obsessed over it to a point where it turns into "It may be wrong to look forward to going home after work to cuddle and spend the night with my girlfriend because I could be tempeted in that situation." Therefore I obsess over whether or not it is wrong to enjoy looking forward to those things even if I am not actually thinking/looking forward to something that may turn into a sin out of that. I realize that it is probably not so black and white and more gray but this can be hard for someone with OCD. It almost comes to a point where you would lead yourself to believe that you can only enjoy those things if you are for sure not going to sin in those areas.

I feel that it is not the snuggling and spending the night that causes me to sin but more the condition of my heart. I feel like when I do sin from things of that area, it is more because of my heart and not the actually act of putting me in those situations. Is it ok to enjoy and look forward to those things if I am not looking forward to the actual sinning part? I basically have been viewing it that if there is one instance where I will sin in that situation, I wont be able to enjoy it at all where in reality there are a lot of things that we may sin in but can enjoy despite those chances.

Ephesians 4:27 Neither give place to the devil.

I think your conscience has already told you what is okay and not okay and you are trying to find a way to justify it. You need to have appropriate boundaries with your girlfriend and you two have definitely crossed the line. That's sin in itself:

Romans 14:23

But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.

Don't think you're strong enough to resist the temptation to have sex because you're not; you need Gods help. How is God going to help you when you are deliberately putting yourself in that situation? It's like walking into traffic and asking God to keep the cars from hitting you.

 

[Bobby64]

If you have OCD in the literal sense, make sure you're seeking help for it. Also, remember that everyone has sinned--the Bible says so. Jesus died for us because of our sin. God knows we slip up. That doesn't mean you're allowed to sin, but it does mean that you don't have to live in constant fear of it. Just try to maintain an attitude of love towards God in all situations rather than obsess over all your actions.

 

[DeadlyScimitars]

Ephesians 4:27 Neither give place to the devil.

I think your conscience has already told you what is okay and not okay and you are trying to find a way to justify it. You need to have appropriate boundaries with your girlfriend and you two have definitely crossed the line. That's sin in itself:

Romans 14:23

But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.

Don't think you're strong enough to resist the temptation to have sex because you're not; you need Gods help. How is God going to help you when you are deliberately putting yourself in that situation? It's like walking into traffic and asking God to keep the cars from hitting you.

I agree Why would you ask temptation to test you (or better yet the Devil). It is like personally challenging him to make you fall. Read Job. I would not advise it. Not wise.

 

[4LivingCreations]

Post #1, you have a very rare and special state of mind about sin.
The process you describe about considering whether things are sinful or not, are the reigns of the heart that God searches!

When you apply this process to material sin, you are "Jacob."
When you apply this process to spiritual sin, you are "Israel!"
Understanding this when you read the OT will bless you and show you that it is alive in Christ.

Don't forget to consider God's reputation with this same fervor, as demonstrated in Ezekiel 20 , particularly verse 44 for example.

God bless you.

 

[toolite]

So I have OCD and I tend to obsess over things that may be a sin. For example, I will obsess over whether enjoying/thinking certain things may be a sin and kind of "block" the joy of having those thoughts, etc. until I know whether or not it is a sin or not.

The other day I got hit with a thought of a "what if it is wrong to snuggle and have my girlfriend spend the night." Obviously, these things are not sins themselves but can be a slippery slope for some. I then have obsessed over it to a point where it turns into "It may be wrong to look forward to going home after work to cuddle and spend the night with my girlfriend because I could be tempeted in that situation." Therefore I obsess over whether or not it is wrong to enjoy looking forward to those things even if I am not actually thinking/looking forward to something that may turn into a sin out of that. I realize that it is probably not so black and white and more gray but this can be hard for someone with OCD. It almost comes to a point where you would lead yourself to believe that you can only enjoy those things if you are for sure not going to sin in those areas.

I feel that it is not the snuggling and spending the night that causes me to sin but more the condition of my heart. I feel like when I do sin from things of that area, it is more because of my heart and not the actually act of putting me in those situations. Is it ok to enjoy and look forward to those things if I am not looking forward to the actual sinning part? I basically have been viewing it that if there is one instance where I will sin in that situation, I wont be able to enjoy it at all where in reality there are a lot of things that we may sin in but can enjoy despite those chances.

I would say when you feel overwhelmed.. pray and when you pray... practise trusting God for the outcome.. You'll do your best and the rest you will leave to God.. God is bigger than you... and can handle many things... God Bless You.. and I pray for you that you have peace in your mind and soul... the peace you deserve.. Glory To God

 

[Yahu]

So I have OCD and I tend to obsess over things that may be a sin. For example, I will obsess over whether enjoying/thinking certain things may be a sin and kind of "block" the joy of having those thoughts, etc. until I know whether or not it is a sin or not.

The other day I got hit with a thought of a "what if it is wrong to snuggle and have my girlfriend spend the night." Obviously, these things are not sins themselves but can be a slippery slope for some. I then have obsessed over it to a point where it turns into "It may be wrong to look forward to going home after work to cuddle and spend the night with my girlfriend because I could be tempeted in that situation." Therefore I obsess over whether or not it is wrong to enjoy looking forward to those things even if I am not actually thinking/looking forward to something that may turn into a sin out of that. I realize that it is probably not so black and white and more gray but this can be hard for someone with OCD. It almost comes to a point where you would lead yourself to believe that you can only enjoy those things if you are for sure not going to sin in those areas.

I feel that it is not the snuggling and spending the night that causes me to sin but more the condition of my heart. I feel like when I do sin from things of that area, it is more because of my heart and not the actually act of putting me in those situations. Is it ok to enjoy and look forward to those things if I am not looking forward to the actual sinning part? I basically have been viewing it that if there is one instance where I will sin in that situation, I wont be able to enjoy it at all where in reality there are a lot of things that we may sin in but can enjoy despite those chances.

For me and my wife during our courtship, she slept in my arms nearly every night possible. We didn't make love until we exchanged vows with her father's blessing for our marriage.

It can be done. We just didn't want to be apart for a single minute we didn't have to be. Was that sin? Not IMO.

We both lived in the same military dorm. I had been late for work two days in a row because of staying up late to be together so I was throwing her out early so I could would not oversleep 3 days in a row and get in major trouble. She begged to be allowed to just stay and sleep in my arms. We each put on a set of sweats pants and tee-shirts and she slept in my arms from that day forward.

 

[DeadlyScimitars]

For me and my wife during our courtship, she slept in my arms nearly every night possible. We didn't make love until we exchanged vows with her father's blessing for our marriage.

It can be done. We just didn't want to be apart for a single minute we didn't have to be. Was that sin? Not IMO.

We both lived in the same military dorm. I had been late for work two days in a row because of staying up late to be together so I was throwing her out early so I could would not oversleep 3 days in a row and get in major trouble. She begged to be allowed to just stay and sleep in my arms. We each put on a set of sweats pants and tee-shirts and she slept in my arms from that day forward.

I agree it can be done. That is a blessing for you!
But I think in this individuals mind he is fighting with this idea or possibility. I think if he was of sound decision then possibly it could work. But with his unstable thinking process I wouldn't recommend it. Would you agree?

 

[thesunisout]

It's truly sad that there is so little discernment in the church today that sleeping in the same bed with your girlfriend is no longer understood as being sin.

For me and my wife during our courtship, she slept in my arms nearly every night possible. We didn't make love until we exchanged vows with her father's blessing for our marriage.

It can be done. We just didn't want to be apart for a single minute we didn't have to be. Was that sin? Not IMO.

We both lived in the same military dorm. I had been late for work two days in a row because of staying up late to be together so I was throwing her out early so I could would not oversleep 3 days in a row and get in major trouble. She begged to be allowed to just stay and sleep in my arms. We each put on a set of sweats pants and tee-shirts and she slept in my arms from that day forward.

What you've posted here is wicked; not because of what you did with your wife, which is sin, but that you posted it here where a brother has admitted to struggling against the temptation to fornicate:

1 Corinthians 8:9 But take care that this right of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak.
1 Corinthians 8:10 For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol's temple, will he not be encouraged, if his conscience is weak, to eat food offered to idols?
1 Corinthians 8:11 And so by your knowledge this weak person is destroyed, the brother for whom Christ died.
1 Corinthians 8:12 Thus, sinning against your brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ.

You should repent of what you've done here and understand that it was purely carnally motivated to post it in the first place, justifying your own sin and encouraging a brother to fall into the pit the enemy has dug for him.

 

[Yahu]

What you've posted here is wicked; not because of what you did with your wife, which is sin, but that you posted it here where a brother has admitted to struggling against the temptation to fornicate:

Your opinion is noted and rejected as irrelevant.

Phariseeism is expanding on Yah's laws to attribute sin to breaking traditions of man. Worry about your own beams.

 

[thesunisout]

Your opinion is noted and rejected as irrelevant.

Phariseeism is expanding on Yah's laws to attribute sin to breaking traditions of man. Worry about your own beams.

Nothing I said had anything to do with the traditions of men. You placed a stumbling block before your brother who is struggling with temptation, and the scripture calls that sin. If you're unable to see that then you have a lot bigger problems than what we are discussing in this thread.

 

[RDKirk]

Your opinion is noted and rejected as irrelevant.

Phariseeism is expanding on Yah's laws to attribute sin to breaking traditions of man. Worry about your own beams.

The guy said he was having already having a problem with it, so how does your flaunting your freedom in front of a weaker brother help him?

 

[intojoy]

So I have OCD and I tend to obsess over things that may be a sin. For example, I will obsess over whether enjoying/thinking certain things may be a sin and kind of "block" the joy of having those thoughts, etc. until I know whether or not it is a sin or not.

The other day I got hit with a thought of a "what if it is wrong to snuggle and have my girlfriend spend the night." Obviously, these things are not sins themselves but can be a slippery slope for some. I then have obsessed over it to a point where it turns into "It may be wrong to look forward to going home after work to cuddle and spend the night with my girlfriend because I could be tempeted in that situation." Therefore I obsess over whether or not it is wrong to enjoy looking forward to those things even if I am not actually thinking/looking forward to something that may turn into a sin out of that. I realize that it is probably not so black and white and more gray but this can be hard for someone with OCD. It almost comes to a point where you would lead yourself to believe that you can only enjoy those things if you are for sure not going to sin in those areas.

I feel that it is not the snuggling and spending the night that causes me to sin but more the condition of my heart. I feel like when I do sin from things of that area, it is more because of my heart and not the actually act of putting me in those situations. Is it ok to enjoy and look forward to those things if I am not looking forward to the actual sinning part? I basically have been viewing it that if there is one instance where I will sin in that situation, I wont be able to enjoy it at all where in reality there are a lot of things that we may sin in but can enjoy despite those chances.

You need help. Our problem is, if we try to stop committing a sin that easily besets us we will end up doing it more. Trying to stop will get u nowhere. The reason we fail to live victorious sanctified lives on earth is because we have not fully realized all that the messiah has done on our behalf. All that was forgiven and all that has been provided to us. When we realize these things our lives begin to change from trying to avoid sinning to trying to be used of The Lord. When we were saved, God gave to us at least one spiritual gift, usually more than one. If we don't know what gifts we possess, it's because we have not thought it important enough to know. Because if we did know, we would be praying for us to understand the gifts and would be asking the elders to put us to work so we can use the gifts that we have. That is the key. God saves us by grace alone and then enables us to work out our lives as servants to Him and each other using the super natural power of gifts like teaching, wisdom, knowledge, mercy, serving and more. If you set your mind on these things, your mind will be used by God because you're submitting your thoughts on what he has provided and enabled you with to serve.