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Isa 22:18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house.ikester7579 said:Lets see you find the word ball or sphere in Gods word.
I stand corrected. Any where else?MSBS said:Isa 22:18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house.
elementary trig should do it. besides, even if they didn'T know, there was nothing stopping God telling them it was a big sphere.ikester7579 said:One more thing. By which means did they have to see if the earth was round? O I know, they had space ships that were slung out into space by big rubber bands.
You've totally missed the point. This particular thing with the flat vs spherical earth came from Karl's defense of lucaspa in regards to your statement about how he didn't quote from the bible when discussing evolution (think I got that right). If you're going to argue that those that wrote the bible didn't know about the earth being a sphere, so it doesn't have relevance in the argument of flat versus spherical earth, you have to use that same logic when discussing evolution. You don't get it both ways.ikester7579 said:I stand corrected. Any where else?
One more thing. By which means did they have to see if the earth was round? O I know, they had space ships that were slung out into space by big rubber bands.
cus if they were being told it was flat, they were being lied to, you see?ikester7579 said:And if they needed to be told, please tell us why this was so vital.
ikester7579 said:Lucaspa, I'm glad you finally told me where you stand in your faith in God's word. You only believe about 50% of what's said. The rest science replaces for you. I now understand.
Science doesn't explain a lot of things discussed in the Bible. But then, scinece is a limited form of knowing. What exactly do you mean by "the rapture"?Science can't explain the rapture. Was wondering if you believe it will happen? Or does this fall on the other side of the 50% that's wrong?
ROFL! We've gone over this before, Ikester. The Word was God, but the Word was NOT the Bible! I thought you would at least believe the Bible on this, but instead you have gone beyond making a literal Bible your god. You have made yourself god.ikester7579 said:John 1:1, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD.
Ikester, did God create the universe?ikester7579 said:O, believe in what you see only? Has anyone seen God lately?But you still believe Lucaspa?
MSBS answered this. You are trying to have it both ways. But in reality there were ways they could have known the earth was round:ikester7579 said:I stand corrected. Any where else?
One more thing. By which means did they have to see if the earth was round? O I know, they had space ships that were slung out into space by big rubber bands.
His faith and or how he approaches some issue have very little to do with the issue itself, rather more with the person behind the statement.ikester7579 said:It's not that I would even attempt to approach it. I do not have the vast libary to look up all that is listed. And no I won't go read all these books just to confront this issue on this thread. Nor do I feel the need to. If Lucaspa believes all these books, that's his right. My question was on his approach and his faith.
People from egypt and greece knew that the earthw as round through trig. Also: if they'd look at the sky, and see for instance the moon, they'd see that it was round as well, Not flat.Jet Black said:elementary trig should do it. besides, even if they didn'T know, there was nothing stopping God telling them it was a big sphere.
The issue on this thread is whether speciation -- macroevolution -- has been observed. The references in the OP are those observations. So, if you are going to deny speciation has ever been observed, you certainly do need to confront that issue.ikester7579 said:It's not that I would even attempt to approach it. I do not have the vast libary to look up all that is listed. And no I won't go read all these books just to confront this issue on this thread. Nor do I feel the need to.
It's not a question of "believe". I accept the data in those reports because the pictures and measurements give me no choice. Just like I have no choice but to accept the data that objects fall when released. Just like you have no choice but to accept the data that the earth is round.If Lucaspa believes all these books, that's his right. My question was on his approach and his faith.
I think the rapture is when Jesus comes back to earth and snaps all the christians away, regardless of what they are doing, flying planes, driving buses, operating on people, delivering milk... and the rest of us get left behind. apparently it will be soon. or not, depending on who you ask.lucaspa said:Science doesn't explain a lot of things discussed in the Bible. But then, scinece is a limited form of knowing. What exactly do you mean by "the rapture"?
Jet Black said:I think the rapture is when Jesus comes back to earth and snaps all the christians away, regardless of what they are doing, flying planes, driving buses, operating on people, delivering milk... and the rest of us get left behind. apparently it will be soon. or not, depending on who you ask.
aah oklucaspa said:Jet, I know the general definition. What I need to know is Ikester's definition. As we have seen, Ikester has unique definitions for theological terms. The worst is his use of John 1:1 to say that "the Word" is the Bible. So, what Ikester thinks the rapture is probably very different from what Christianity thinks it is.
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