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Objective morality, can it exist? Sort of....
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<blockquote data-quote="public hermit" data-source="post: 75146401" data-attributes="member: 421854"><p>Only subjects can consider things in terms of value. Rocks don't consider things in terms of value. So, the idea that morality can only be objective within a value framework is not much more than saying only subjects can be moral. The question is, "Is there a framework that lays out a value system that obtains for all subjects of a particular kind?" If so, then morality can be objective because there are some values that obtain for all.</p><p></p><p>The one candidate for such a framework that comes to my mind is life, optimal life and all that works in its favor. At any rate, if such a framework is possible then we might say, in all possible worlds where human life obtains, there are certain values that are commensurate. That's not wholly unlike saying, in all possible worlds where physical objects exist, there are certain properties that are commensurate. That's about as objective as objective gets.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="public hermit, post: 75146401, member: 421854"] Only subjects can consider things in terms of value. Rocks don't consider things in terms of value. So, the idea that morality can only be objective within a value framework is not much more than saying only subjects can be moral. The question is, "Is there a framework that lays out a value system that obtains for all subjects of a particular kind?" If so, then morality can be objective because there are some values that obtain for all. The one candidate for such a framework that comes to my mind is life, optimal life and all that works in its favor. At any rate, if such a framework is possible then we might say, in all possible worlds where human life obtains, there are certain values that are commensurate. That's not wholly unlike saying, in all possible worlds where physical objects exist, there are certain properties that are commensurate. That's about as objective as objective gets. [/QUOTE]
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