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<blockquote data-quote="stevil" data-source="post: 77615842" data-attributes="member: 277368"><p>As far as I understand it the conscious mind is an emergent property of the workings of a physical brain.</p><p>Even if you had a mind made of nothing, floating in the nothing, what would it think?</p><p>It would have no concept of time or things even. There would be no time and so no sequence of events or thinking would be possible. Basically, you wouldn't be able to think things through.</p><p>This mind wouldn't have any idea of the concept of light, or colour or shape, or temperature, or time. It wouldn't have any idea of the concept of objects, or movement, or life. It wouldn't have any idea about solid, liquid or gas. No concept of mass, inertia, acceleration, gravity, atoms, before vs now vs after.</p><p></p><p>How would you explain any of these things to a mind that has never seen, never heard, never tasted, never smelt, never felt?</p><p>This mind could not learn, because it cannot observer or experience. Given that there is no time, it cannot FIRST learn and THEN apply its new knowledge.</p><p>You wouldn't even be able to explain to it, the concept of cause and effect.</p><p></p><p>The idea of a mind without a physical brain is absurd. The idea of a mind with knowledge without existence and time is insanely absurd.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevil, post: 77615842, member: 277368"] As far as I understand it the conscious mind is an emergent property of the workings of a physical brain. Even if you had a mind made of nothing, floating in the nothing, what would it think? It would have no concept of time or things even. There would be no time and so no sequence of events or thinking would be possible. Basically, you wouldn't be able to think things through. This mind wouldn't have any idea of the concept of light, or colour or shape, or temperature, or time. It wouldn't have any idea of the concept of objects, or movement, or life. It wouldn't have any idea about solid, liquid or gas. No concept of mass, inertia, acceleration, gravity, atoms, before vs now vs after. How would you explain any of these things to a mind that has never seen, never heard, never tasted, never smelt, never felt? This mind could not learn, because it cannot observer or experience. Given that there is no time, it cannot FIRST learn and THEN apply its new knowledge. You wouldn't even be able to explain to it, the concept of cause and effect. The idea of a mind without a physical brain is absurd. The idea of a mind with knowledge without existence and time is insanely absurd. [/QUOTE]
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